Billie Eilish has it right...

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  1. paulbearer

    paulbearer Member

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    Just had more coffee this am, so pardon the stream of consciousness:

    When Jimmy Kimmel recently asked her to name any member of Van Halen, she replied, "who?"
    Naturally, the web lit up.

    But obviously, if any 'period correct, real-time' Van Halen fans (like me) were asked about most of these artists, they'd have had the same response.
    Check out the hot hits from 40 years before VH's heyday.

    The Number One Hits of 1939
    December 31, 1938 – January 13, 1939
    Bing Crosby – You Must Have Been a Beautiful Baby*

    December 31, 1938 – January 13, 1939
    Andy Kirk – I Won’t Tell a Soul (I Love You)*

    January 14, 1939 – February 25, 1939
    Al Donohue – Jeepers Creepers (6 weeks*)

    January 14, 1939 – January 20, 1939
    Artie Shaw – Thanks For Ev’rything

    February 4, 1939 – February 10, 1939
    Kay Kyser – The Umbrella Man

    February 11, 1939 – April 21, 1939
    Larry Clinton – Deep Purple (9 weeks*)

    March 18, 1939 – March 25, 1939
    Guy Lombardo – Penny Serenade

    April 22, 139 – May 5, 1939
    Glem Gray – Heaven Can Wait

    May 6, 1949 – May 12, 1939
    Tommy Dorsey – Our Love

    May 13, 1939 – June 9, 1939
    Benny Goodman – And The Angels Sing (5 weeks*)

    May 20, 1939 – June 2, 1939
    Kay Kyser – Three Little Fishies

    June 3, 1939 – June 30, 1939
    Will Glahe – Beer Barrel Polka


    Hot for Teacher, meet Jeepers Creepers:



    So basically, Van Halen is sort of the Bing Crosby or Al Donohue of today.


    And for a real treat, listen to the music Bing's fans would have said "who?" Top songs from 1900-1909... a period when, as one of the YT comments mentions, cocaine,heroin,opium and morphine were called medicine.



    Finally, if you got here and haven't heard Billie Eilish, I'm always yelling at clouds about trap and hiphop but I dig this, on track for a Billion YT view year:





     
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    She should have said..."I've heard of Van Hagar".
     
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    It's not really my style but I think she's very talented. She has obviously made a big connection with today's youth. I wish her the best
     
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    to be fair, I'd never heard of Billie Ellish until this morning
     
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    Isn't she like 17 or something?

    Why would a 17 year old kid be required to be familiar with 40 year old music?

    Were Van Halen fans in 1977 expected to know about Glenn Miller?
     
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    She's 17. So she was born in [EDIT: CORRECTION] '01. Van Halen were relevant in the 80's.

    The equivalent for me when I was 17 in 1987 was the 1950's. I knew who Elvis, Buddy Holly, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Hank Williams, Jerry Lee Lewis, Benny Goodman, etc. all were. I wasn't a signed artist but I was a musician playing trumpet in the school band and learning to play guitar, and I was a big music fan.

    Van Halen aren't exactly an obscure act in the history of American popular music.
     
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    When I was 17 in 1993 I knew who Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman were. But I'm not normal, and neither are you.
     
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    While VH had some singles in the top 40, they were no Bing Crosby. Ask Billie Eilish if she knows who Bing Crosby was.
     
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    I can't understand why musicians (who should get it) fixate on stuff like this.
    Hey - psst; scripted conversation on hack comedy/talk show.
    Predictable outrage and eventual outreach to people in their prime years of earning is the aim.
     
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    While I hear what the OP is saying and don't necessarily disagree, there's one difference. In my experience back in the '80s, the average Van Halen fan wouldn't be able to channel surf on the radio and hear an Artie Shaw or Bing Crosby song. Today, the average Billie Eilish fan would likely hear a Van Halen song within 10-15 minutes of channel surfing.
     
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    Top 10 1939 artist trivia to a 17 year old after the 70s: Kay Kyser, Will Glahe, Larry Clinton, Andy Kirk, & Glem Gray?

    Because coffee. Got you in here though ;-)
     
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    Do you think anyone under 30 listens to the radio?
     
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    nice post OP...something to ponder for sure. Having fun listening to those old cuts, and remembering they were probably all cut live with an orchestra in the studio.
     
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    I have five grandkids ranging in age from 2-20. I guarantee that the 17 year old and 20 year have no idea who Van Halen is. It’s not surprising that Billie didn’t either.
     
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    Excellent point. :aok
     
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    The real test is if she knows who Hendrix is.
     
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    3rd cup.
    damn.
     
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    When I talk about music with younger people, usually I am turning them on to artists I like that were main stream at one time. I am usually stunned at their lack of knowledge. I knew lots about music from the 20's to the late 50's. But, a young person has a huge mountain to climb cause the volume of music from 1960 till now must be overwhelming compared to pre 60's, so I give a break to them. How could you know everything? I got to hang with the Foo Fighters for a good part of a day. I got a big rush out of turning Taylor Hawkins on to the band the Flock. He said he like older music from the 60's & 70's. But I do get stunned at anyone who loves music and is clueless about THe BEATLES.
     
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