Billie Eilish has it right...

panther_king

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Billie Eilish is entirely wrong and this thread is silly. I'm really bugged by all the "boomer music" comments lately. I'm 23 and I was listening to Zep, Beatles, Queen, etc. since I was 12. Nobody told me it was "dad rock" or "boomer music" until recently when these phrases got all popular. Billie is a relic of today's mumble musicians that even most kids my age hate who are even remotely self-aware. Don't be fooled by sold out concerts and youtube videos with millions of views. Even mumble (c)rappers sell out concerts today. Stick to your roots, y'all are old and should know better.

Okay, captain bold text size, lets put this whole statement into subject and objective statements.

Oh wait, nm, it's all your subjective opinion that you're passing off as fact because it's 'right to you'.

I mean, she doesn't even mumble, it's just a very non-lyric piano mezzo that frequently rests in alto.

.... and if you don't know what that means and have ever said 'music is dead', you're part of the reason why.

- signed; Gen X 'old guy'
 

SimAlex

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Even when he was 5 I realized I have no control... he's already his own person following his own muse. I hope that by me not ramming guitar music down his throat, he stays open to it as opposed to hating it for being grandpa music.
imho, you got it right.
 

Jahn

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Yes, that's it! "Mumble music." Thank you. I knew there was a term for this stuff...so droopy and listless. A little goes a long way! YMMV.
This first time I heard it was Lana Del Ray drolling “video gaaaammmeeeesss” and I was done. I did like Lorde’s “Royals” tho, which was in that vein.
But then it invaded rap. I hate mumble rap.
 

CharAznable

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Billie Eilish is entirely wrong and this thread is silly. I'm really bugged by all the "boomer music" comments lately. I'm 23 and I was listening to Zep, Beatles, Queen, etc. since I was 12. Nobody told me it was "dad rock" or "boomer music" until recently when these phrases got all popular. Billie is a relic of today's mumble musicians that even most kids my age hate who are even remotely self-aware. Don't be fooled by sold out concerts and youtube videos with millions of views. Even mumble (c)rappers sell out concerts today. Stick to your roots, y'all are old and should know better.
You should do one of those reaction videos "Post-millenial reacts to classic rock". You'd get tons of view and likes from 60 year old guys.
 

pickaguitar

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Okay, captain bold text size, lets put this whole statement into subject and objective statements.

Oh wait, nm, it's all your subjective opinion that you're passing off as fact because it's 'right to you'.

I mean, she doesn't even mumble, it's just a very non-lyric piano mezzo that frequently rests in alto.

.... and if you don't know what that means and have ever said 'music is dead', you're part of the reason why.

- signed; Gen X 'old guy'
I liked his relevant post Mr. Superiority
 

Radar

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Okay, captain bold text size, lets put this whole statement into subject and objective statements.

Oh wait, nm, it's all your subjective opinion that you're passing off as fact because it's 'right to you'.
It is an objective fact my IQ drops a point every time I listen to Billie.

I mean, she doesn't even mumble, it's just a very non-lyric piano mezzo that frequently rests in alto.
Identical fanbase.

.... and if you don't know what that means and have ever said 'music is dead', you're part of the reason why.
Music is very much alive today. I know that y'all wanted Yandhi, but [REDACTED] did the laundry.
 

xzacx

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Don't be fooled by sold out concerts and youtube videos with millions of views.
She should probably just give it up, huh? Doesn't matter if the people attending those concerts or streaming her songs enjoy them, or that she's become so successful already—you don't like it, so therefore it doesn't deserve to exist.
 

niassist

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Lately I've come to think that music enduring, while obviously having something to do with quality, also has to do with how the legacy of an artist is maintained and marketed.

i.e. The Beatles, Queen, Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin have been very effective stewards of their own musical legacy. Jimi Hendrix and the Rolling Stones, although being pretty far from being forgotten, have not have really benefitted from such stewardship. Kiss already failed with my generation... I don't think they're going to make it to the next one.

Van Halen aren't helping themselves either.
Of the bands you listed the only one I listen to is Pink Floyd and that's only because of Gilmour's playing and tones. I'm not really that big of a fan of the music overall. The albums Wish You Were Here and Animals are by far my favorite because basically they're just Gilmour endlessly jamming. I will say I love the mood and feel of Division Bell. That album is full of emotion. For what it's worth I'll be 40 next week so I'm not terribly far removed from them, but by no means was I growing up in their prime. I still respect what they did for music, though. Just not my cup of tea.
 

panther_king

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It is an objective fact my IQ drops a point every time I listen to Billie.
Subjective. Do you need the difference explained? Also your IQ is likely actually growing while listening to her music, whether you enjoy the experience or not.

Identical fanbase.
You mean people don't normally tend to listen to similar bands and genres? Are you one of these mythical classic rock unicorns that listens to stuff you like because it has similar styles of instrumentation or singing? Shocking!

Music is very much alive today. I know that y'all wanted Yandhi, but [REDACTED] did the laundry.
I'm going to guess this is a Kanye thing? I dunno - I don't really listen to him much. Should I? I heard he has a new album that came out he was really dragging his ass on. Is it good?
 

CharAznable

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Of the bands you listed the only one I listen to is Pink Floyd and that's only because of Gilmour's playing and tones. I'm not really that big of a fan of the music overall. The albums Wish You Were Here and Animals are by far my favorite because basically they're just Gilmour endlessly jamming. I will say I love the mood and feel of Division Bell. That album is full of emotion. For what it's worth I'll be 40 next week so I'm not terribly far removed from them, but by no means was I growing up in their prime. I still respect what they did for music, though. Just not my cup of tea.
I'm 42 and I know who they are and what they did and so do you. And nobody rammed them down my throat. They've done a good job of keeping themselves relevant by various means.
 




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