Black Cat Monster K-Fuzz vs. Basic Audio Kay Fuzz, thoughts?

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  1. Flatscan

    Flatscan Supporting Member

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    I'm quite intrigued by the Kay Fuzz tone.

    Both the Black Cat Monster K-Fuzz and the Basic Audio Kay fuzz seem like faithful replicas plus improvements versus the original.

    Have any of you A/B'd them? Thoughts? How useful is the wah pedal functionality on the Black Cat? Is this worth paying more for or can you "fake" this effect somehow?

    [One idea would be to use a continuously sweeping low-pass filter but that would be a pain to do outside of the studio.]

    [I would guess John L. could build a Kay fuzz with a wah enclosure. He does this with the Throbby.]
     
  2. Flatscan

    Flatscan Supporting Member

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    Bump for love and fuzziness
     
  3. Empros

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    Never used the Black Cat version.
    But the BA version is wicked, man. Seriously good. I've got a couple clips of it - surprisingly versatile for what it is. Ring mod sounds are fun with it.

    I have no desire to have any form of foot control for the effect. Not sure I'd ever use it.
     
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  4. la noise

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    I've had the BA Kay for about 3 years now. Fun pedal.
    Would love to try the Black Cat, though. Appears to have
    more versatility than the BA, which can be a bit of a
    one trick pony. Unfortunately, both the Monster Kay
    and the Custom Kay Fuzz from Black Cat are quite spendy. :dunno

    I say go for the Black Cat and report back to us here. :aok
     
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  5. JokeSmuggler

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    Never A/B'd them either...Not sure how useful the treadle would be, but the Kay fuzz design is super cool. I have one of the BA ones and it is solid.
     
  6. Flatscan

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    Thanks all! Much appreciated.

    I'm keeping my eyes open for either pedal.

    The BA fuzzes are killer. I've enjoyed the demos posted by many of you in this thread. [Thanks for that too!]

    I've never owned a Black Cat effect (only positive emotions in this comment) and don't know what to expect. JustNick spoke very highly of the BC Kay in his demo.

    Aside: BA introduced me to the Kay fuzz. The demos of it made me keenly interested. I found out afterward that the Edge used an original treadle-enabled Kay on Elevation.

    [and I love expression-enabled effects space-permitting.]
     
  7. Flatscan

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    I just picked up a Black Cat [thanks to Prymaxe's Loyalty Sale] and will report back after I've spent meaningful time with it.

    Thanks to all for your thoughts and clips (Dave, Matt, etc.).

    P.S. - JustNick's demo is excellent.
     
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  8. Kev O)))

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    Could the BA Kay Fuzz be used with a Volume pedal for the same effect?
     
  9. Laganlad

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    I loved the sounds from my BA Kay fuzz but it was noisy as I don't know what
     
  10. Non-Digital Tom

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    Wow... honestly, I don't see how the Kay would be nearly as useful WITHOUT the treadle. I mean, you know that's how the original was designed, right?

    [​IMG]

    And it's not a wah. There's nothing wah about it. The treadle controls the bias of the fuzz, which goes from a muffled low end rumble to a nasty searing buzzsaw fuzz. The treadle sweep is what makes it.
     
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  11. Jackie Treehorn

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    I made myself one of these about 10 years ago before anyone was selling clones. The footpedal adjusts what would be the tone control on a similar octave fuzz like the Foxx Tone Machine. When I did my Kay knock off, I actually added a bias control on the tied transistors and, you know, making THAT the foot controlled thing would probably be a lot cooler!

    I think the foot pedal is pretty silly. I built my Foxx Tone Machine in an old Foxx Down Machine wah enclosure, so I did it Kay style with the Tone adjustable, too. It's really pretty pointless in my opinion after trying it on two different circuits. it's ultimately more of a set and forget setting.

    When I saw Lanois with black dub, it looked like he might of had his rehoused in a really nicely done one knob box.
     

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