Which do you prefer? I am partial to the silver back non reverb original Shivas. But, how good are the upgrades on the 20th anniversary. Videos on youtube are not as reliable as you may think.
Thanks for the reply. I’ve owned a silver back EL34, non reverb, which was a beast. I’d prefer the non reverb models as the reverb versions had less bite to them, wasn’t as ferocious sounding.There’s a healthy amount of Shiva threads if you search. I know because I just picked up a 20th and did a fair amount of reading. I think it comes down to a couple of things.
-How important is the fx loop to you? I’ve heard from people who think even the last version before the 20th, although useable, they still feel there’s some tone suck there and the amp loses something. I can’t really say. I haven’t played all the versions enough to know.
-What level of gain do you want to achieve without external boost pedals?
Personally, I like to get into the heavier gain tones. I like the mode switch on the 20th to push it to the more modern side. I find my favorite tones are the standard shiva gain mode with the boost on or the more modern mode with the boost off. All of the tones are really good, that’s just where I “live” most of the time. I’ve played a silver el34 and I do like the overall tones, just like to be able to go a little further. I’m sure there’s people who have both or played them side by side that can compare better. The 20th was a no brainer for what I like and it sounds great. I’ve heard plenty tout the virtues of the original and say it’s better overall. YMMV.
This was the word on the Shiva's back in the day. Also, I mentioned this to the Bogner people (shop) in North Hollywood and they gave me a wink. I am not sure what that meant, but that's been my experience.Is that a generally-accepted statement? I hadn’t heard that before, but I’d be curious if it were true.
I have actually compared two Shivas side by side back in the day. A non reverb model versus my buddies reverb model. The non reverb model was a BEAST while the reverb model was a kitty. I verified the theory which was all over the internet about 12 years ago.I’ve definitely read that multiple times. I’ve never played a reverb model.
I was the Bogner Distributor here for quite a few years & the distinct impression we got (from what we saw & were told) was that this project was rushed because Bogner felt they had to have something new, hence the 20th Anniversaries.What makes you say that?
What year were these 2 x Shivas? What were the Tubes & Bias?I have actually compared two Shivas side by side back in the day. A non reverb model versus my buddies reverb model. The non reverb model was a BEAST while the reverb model was a kitty. I verified the theory which was all over the internet about 12 years ago.
I don’t recall the years of the two Shivas, but they both were silver backs. My non reverb model had Wing C power tubes, I don’t remember what his had. However, we both talk about it to this day as the difference was distinct. He recently bought a silver back non reverb shiva that needs new capacitors. He got me thinking about getting a 20th anniversary as I loved my old shiva.What year were these 2 x Shivas? What were the Tubes & Bias?
I have some NOS Amps lying around (~ 2008 or earlier), maybe I should look at this again.
Mind you, a friend had an older Silver Chassis Shiva that was an awesome Amp.