Bogner XTC 101B - any good for low volume practising?

billm408

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I wouldn't recommend it for that kind of use. While you can use the fx loop to act as a MV, it's not quite the same. The XTC is at it's best when you're pushing some air.
 

Random Hero

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The reason I ask is that I frequently use my Mark IV for that and it sounds pretty good doing so, IMO. I'm thinking of selling it and buying an XTC.
 

billm408

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It's a great amp and I'm not saying you can't practice at lower volume. Just that you won't be getting the best it has to offer at bedroom levels. You can drive a Ferrari 35 mph too and I'm sure it drives just fine.
 

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I think it sounds good at low levels, but when you get to turn it up....:BEER
It's a great amp and I'm not saying you can't practice at lower volume. Just that you won't be getting the best it has to offer at bedroom levels.
 

zuel69

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Funny, I just purchased a new 101b and 2x12 2 days ago. I'm still learning the amp but I have to completely agree with CRS45 and bikerdude2. Sounds pretty good with a bb preamp to tighten it up and a touch of delay as well for low volume playing.
 

Random Hero

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It's a great amp and I'm not saying you can't practice at lower volume. Just that you won't be getting the best it has to offer at bedroom levels.
Of course. Thanks man. Aslong as it sounds "okay to good" at low volumes it will do for when I'm not jamming with the band :JAM
 

jcoggins7

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I think it sounds pretty good at low levels, but the other guys are right, it sounds AMAZING turned up. It will be a completely different beast than your Mark IV though. If it was my money...I'd take both.
 

matt5150

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It's great at bedroom volumes and f-ing AMAZING at gig volume.

Matt
 

zuel69

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Whats really surprised me so far is how great the clean channel is. I have read a lot of negative reviews concerning it. My amp is a 2007, I wonder if something changed?
 

sws1

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I thought it was just OK at bedroom volumes. Somewhat uninspiring. Not like a Shiva which I think DOES sound great at low volumes.
 

NatDeroxL7

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it works great, people will say it's 'not worth it' to have that big an amp for practicing.....but honestly, unless you are able to spend cash on a ton of amps for every possible scenario, buy the amp for the largest possible venue you would imagine playing, and then just deal with the practice tones....its practice after all, not opening for Led Zeppelin.

Just get it, it rocks!
 

voodoochile

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I agree with the above- an XTC is designed for BIG airspace and volume. I had an XTC and loved it, but it was really like caging up a large animal. It still sounded okay at low volumes, but unless you are going to play out somewhere, I would look for another amp to fill the home needs.
 

SvenHock

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These amps are not designed for low volume bedroom playing but do not sound bad at lower volumes. Its forte is being cranked and it does not have to be ear shattering volume either.

As far as bad cleans from the Ecstasy, thats total nonsense UNLESS your playing the clean channel at ear shattering volumes. People who rag on the clean channel did not take the time to turn the knobs to the right positions and unlike a Mesa, it does not take forever to dial in.
 

localmotion411

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I had an Ecstasy and loved everything about it except for the fact that it was huge and not exactly plug and play.

Excellent sounds at bedroom volumes, just fine for practicing at home. And when you get to turn it up, look out. Much different sounding when cranked than when at bedroom volumes, but extremely usable nonetheless.

You'd be hard pressed to find an amp that does as much as the Ecstasy and sounds as sweet. To me, it is not such a high-gain monster as it is a bunch of vintage amps (from tweed to Marshall plexi) all rolled into one, with a ton of options and as much gain as you'd want. One amp I seriously miss, that and my old Shiva.
 
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I had one (101 B with EL34s and 4X12 cab) that I had in my rehearsal studio (Downtown Studios in San Francisco). The building was sold to a dot com company so I had to take it home. It was nice at low volumes, but only being able to use it in my apartment was like having a Ferrari you could only drive around the block. So I flipped it for a CAE OD-50. Overall, a really nice amp though.
 

Erik

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...As far as bad cleans from the Ecstasy, thats total nonsense UNLESS your playing the clean channel at ear shattering volumes. People who rag on the clean channel did not take the time to turn the knobs to the right positions and unlike a Mesa, it does not take forever to dial in.

+1. BrentSP showed a quick and easy way to dial in beautiful cleans on the amp. I was shocked at the difference it made.
 




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