Boogie dudes please help

japhy

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My question is , how do you tell the difference between a mkII b , c , c+.
I found a Boggie that the seller claims is a mkII , but it has no markings that indicate which mkII .
It is a 60 watt , no sim/class , no eq .

I know nearly nothing boogie , and I don't feel like searching the net to get my answer . This is the only gear board that I'm registered on , so I hope someone can help.

Thanks.
 

The Captain

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Here are a couple of pics of my IIC+ to help out. The "+" and MB's initials are essential to ID a IIC+
 

Squigglefunk

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if the knobs have silver caps it's a MKIIB or A, black caps MKIIC or C+ the + will have a little + over the power cord.

silver caps:

 

bosstone

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What he said...A C+ will have a "+" sigh above the convenience outlet but some have just put them on themselves. You can also get a good idea by the date. The date is usually handwritten on the chassis and sometimes in the cabinet. C+s came out in late 1983 and were made for about a year and a half. Their serial numbers are mostly in the 12,XXX to 13,XXX range.
 

The Captain

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What he said...A C+ will have a "+" sigh above the convenience outlet but some have just put them on themselves. You can also get a good idea by the date. The date is usually handwritten on the chassis and sometimes in the cabinet. C+s came out in late 1983 and were made for about a year and a half. Their serial numbers are mostly in the 13,XXX range.

That's why I put up the pic. All the IIC+ amps were done by MB and his + sign is very distinctive, being quite curvy rather than straight, and the pen he used leaves a distinctive pattern. I'm sure that people have tried to fake it, but A/Bed against a genuine one, I think it would be easy to pick a fake.
 

bosstone

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Yah but...it ain't that hard to copy and not everyone knows what Mike Bendinelli's marks look like. I am sure there have been more that one phony passed off as authentic. At $2K to $4K+ for a MKIIC+, you better be sure. I had Mike B. check my C+ Simul Class and I'm glad I don't have to worry about about it.
 

The Captain

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Yah but...it ain't that hard to copy and not everyone knows what Mike Bendinelli's marks look like. I am sure there have been more that one phony passed off as authentic. At $2K to $4K+ for a MKIIC+, you better be sure. I had Mike B. check my C+ Simul Class and I'm glad I don't have to worry about about it.
I guess that is true, and I had mine checked and serviced at the Boogie factory as well. Since I bought mine over the net, I had some concerns about authenticity, and was also reassured to have MB give it the thumbs up.
Mine is not simul-class, which is cool, since I prefer 6L6 tone anyway.
These amps are an education.
 

japhy

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Thnaks for the info so far . I know the amp has the mb markings . I'l go back tomorrow to look for the bass shift and the other marking, the ser# etc.
 

bosstone

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I guess that is true, and I had mine checked and serviced at the Boogie factory as well. Since I bought mine over the net, I had some concerns about authenticity, and was also reassured to have MB give it the thumbs up.
Mine is not simul-class, which is cool, since I prefer 6L6 tone anyway.
These amps are an education.
Simul Class MKIIC+'s can run on 4, 6L6's, 2, EL34s with 2 6L6's or just 2, EL34's.
 

The Captain

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Simul Class MKIIC+'s can run on 4, 6L6's, 2, EL34s with 2 6L6's or just 2, EL34's.
Yeah, I know that. Mine is presently running on two 6L6's cos I had a bad tube, and the price here is criminal. I'll buy some more on my holiday in a few weeks.
I'm going to try and get some Sylvanias.
Having the eq is more important to me than the Simul-Class, and i did not have the choice anyway.
 

japhy

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Checked it out again today . Turns out to be a IIB . It's in a rack mount .
I'm trying to figure out what a good price would be to own it , considering that I would want to buy a cab to put it in.......

ser# is in the 9xxx range.
 

bosstone

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Yeah, I know that. Mine is presently running on two 6L6's cos I had a bad tube, and the price here is criminal. I'll buy some more on my holiday in a few weeks.
I'm going to try and get some Sylvanias.
Having the eq is more important to me than the Simul-Class, and i did not have the choice anyway.
Not everyone thinks the Simul Class sounds best. I have a MKIIC+ Simul Class and owned a 60/100 C+, when it was new in late 1983 through 1986 . It is hard to compare them after 25 years and I am not using them in the same ways, at the same volume, with the same guitars. If I had to guess, for rock music, I think the 60/100 sounded better, not to take anything away from the Simul Class because it does that well too and also has a fusion type sound that I really like.
 

daveowens2007

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hi - I own a mrk3 ( with) the IIC+ mod...
save your self the cash and buy a used mrk3 and have
the mod..it cleans the tones and the fizz/hizz right out.
completely changes the sound and the dynamics
of the amp..I also have a Pentode/Triode switch on mine.(full loaded Blue stripe/89/jan)..

(no its not a real IIC+ ) but its really close..and alot cheaper.
 

The Captain

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Not everyone thinks the Simul Class sounds best. I have a MKIIC+ Simul Class and owned a 60/100 C+, when it was new in late 1983 through 1986 . It is hard to compare them after 25 years and I am not using them in the same ways, at the same volume, with the same guitars. If I had to guess, for rock music, I think the 60/100 sounded better, not to take anything away from the Simul Class because it does that well too and also has a fusion type sound that I really like.
This would gel with my tonal preferences anyway. I have one amp with EL34's, and I love it for what it does, but it does not get the same visceral crunch to it that I get from the 6L6's in my other Mesa and H&K amps.
I wonder what the OP's amp turned out to be ??
 

bosstone

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hi - I own a mrk3 ( with) the IIC+ mod...
save your self the cash and buy a used mrk3 and have
the mod..it cleans the tones and the fizz/hizz right out.
completely changes the sound and the dynamics
of the amp..I also have a Pentode/Triode switch on mine.(full loaded Blue stripe/89/jan)..

(no its not a real IIC+ ) but its really close..and alot cheaper.
The stock Mark III "red stripe" is already very close to the C+ sound if you can find one of those.
 

primerib

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The stock Mark III "red stripe" is already very close to the C+ sound if you can find one of those.

And you can send a IIC to MB and they'll upgrade it to a '+' for a couple hundred. As long as Mike B is not on another sabatacle.
 




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