Boogie dudes please help

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by japhy, Jan 15, 2008.

  1. japhy

    japhy Member

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    My question is , how do you tell the difference between a mkII b , c , c+.
    I found a Boggie that the seller claims is a mkII , but it has no markings that indicate which mkII .
    It is a 60 watt , no sim/class , no eq .

    I know nearly nothing boogie , and I don't feel like searching the net to get my answer . This is the only gear board that I'm registered on , so I hope someone can help.

    Thanks.
     
  2. mesanatic

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    Here is a link to help you out. The main thing is the serial #. The IIB has no pull shift on the Bass knob.
    http://homepage.mac.com/mesaboogie/IICPlus.html

    You can call Mesa Boogie with the serial # and they will date the amp and tell you the model.
    The date should be on the bottom of the chassis though.
     
  3. The Captain

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    Here are a couple of pics of my IIC+ to help out. The "+" and MB's initials are essential to ID a IIC+[​IMG]
     
  4. Squigglefunk

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    if the knobs have silver caps it's a MKIIB or A, black caps MKIIC or C+ the + will have a little + over the power cord.

    silver caps:

    [​IMG]
     
  5. The Captain

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    Sorry, here is another, I'm still learning to drive the pic module here[​IMG]
     
  6. bosstone

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    What he said...A C+ will have a "+" sigh above the convenience outlet but some have just put them on themselves. You can also get a good idea by the date. The date is usually handwritten on the chassis and sometimes in the cabinet. C+s came out in late 1983 and were made for about a year and a half. Their serial numbers are mostly in the 12,XXX to 13,XXX range.
     
  7. bluesmain

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    Make the call to mesa.They are nice folks!
     
  8. Squigglefunk

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    nice amp!
     
  9. The Captain

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    That's why I put up the pic. All the IIC+ amps were done by MB and his + sign is very distinctive, being quite curvy rather than straight, and the pen he used leaves a distinctive pattern. I'm sure that people have tried to fake it, but A/Bed against a genuine one, I think it would be easy to pick a fake.
     
  10. bosstone

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    Yah but...it ain't that hard to copy and not everyone knows what Mike Bendinelli's marks look like. I am sure there have been more that one phony passed off as authentic. At $2K to $4K+ for a MKIIC+, you better be sure. I had Mike B. check my C+ Simul Class and I'm glad I don't have to worry about about it.
     
  11. The Captain

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    I guess that is true, and I had mine checked and serviced at the Boogie factory as well. Since I bought mine over the net, I had some concerns about authenticity, and was also reassured to have MB give it the thumbs up.
    Mine is not simul-class, which is cool, since I prefer 6L6 tone anyway.
    These amps are an education.
     
  12. japhy

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    Thnaks for the info so far . I know the amp has the mb markings . I'l go back tomorrow to look for the bass shift and the other marking, the ser# etc.
     
  13. bosstone

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    Simul Class MKIIC+'s can run on 4, 6L6's, 2, EL34s with 2 6L6's or just 2, EL34's.
     
  14. The Captain

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    Yeah, I know that. Mine is presently running on two 6L6's cos I had a bad tube, and the price here is criminal. I'll buy some more on my holiday in a few weeks.
    I'm going to try and get some Sylvanias.
    Having the eq is more important to me than the Simul-Class, and i did not have the choice anyway.
     
  15. japhy

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    Checked it out again today . Turns out to be a IIB . It's in a rack mount .
    I'm trying to figure out what a good price would be to own it , considering that I would want to buy a cab to put it in.......

    ser# is in the 9xxx range.
     
  16. bosstone

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    Not everyone thinks the Simul Class sounds best. I have a MKIIC+ Simul Class and owned a 60/100 C+, when it was new in late 1983 through 1986 . It is hard to compare them after 25 years and I am not using them in the same ways, at the same volume, with the same guitars. If I had to guess, for rock music, I think the 60/100 sounded better, not to take anything away from the Simul Class because it does that well too and also has a fusion type sound that I really like.
     
  17. daveowens2007

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    hi - I own a mrk3 ( with) the IIC+ mod...
    save your self the cash and buy a used mrk3 and have
    the mod..it cleans the tones and the fizz/hizz right out.
    completely changes the sound and the dynamics
    of the amp..I also have a Pentode/Triode switch on mine.(full loaded Blue stripe/89/jan)..

    (no its not a real IIC+ ) but its really close..and alot cheaper.
     
  18. The Captain

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    This would gel with my tonal preferences anyway. I have one amp with EL34's, and I love it for what it does, but it does not get the same visceral crunch to it that I get from the 6L6's in my other Mesa and H&K amps.
    I wonder what the OP's amp turned out to be ??
     
  19. bosstone

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    The stock Mark III "red stripe" is already very close to the C+ sound if you can find one of those.
     
  20. primerib

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    And you can send a IIC to MB and they'll upgrade it to a '+' for a couple hundred. As long as Mike B is not on another sabatacle.
     

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