Boogie III or IV?

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  1. JackButler

    JackButler Supporting Member

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    Is the actual gain on the Mark IV's smoother as I have read? Is there a tonal compromise? Played a III today and liked, but if the IV"s gain is smoother that appeals to me.
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  2. Troser

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    Definately smoother, and more on tap. Better switching system by a million-fold. That said, I like the styling of the Mark III better... single row of knobs.

    If I needed to switch channels it would be no contest... Mark IV. For just the gain channel, I'd buy a Mark III just because I like the styling better, and they still sound great.
     
  3. fusionbear

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    I've owned 2 MKIV's and currently own a green stripe MKIII non-simul. The MKIV is smoother and more versatile, but the MKIII is more agressive sounding. I kept the MKIII because I also own a Fuchs. The Fuchs gives me the cleans and smooth fusiony dirty tones and the MKIII gives me thrash/hard rock tones to die for. YMMV...
     
  4. JackButler

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    Thanks.
    I'm looking for a smoother OD channel and great fat clean to compliment my Soldano's angry side so I'll be a/bing the amps.
     
  5. Troser

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    Grab yourself a Bogner Shiva EL34 for the best cleans you've ever heard... the drive channel rocks too, and they take a pedal like a madman.
     
  6. JackButler

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    I had a Shiva with 6l6, liked it, but it wouldn't be one of my two main gigging amps. Ironically I am looking at a 34 shiva now for a combo amp for small venues. The green stripe I heard today..it's clean was much bigger than the Shiva IMO.

    So just snagged the MArk IV that came up, if that doesn't do it then I know to go for the green stripe III.
    Thanks guys!
     
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    You gear junkie! ;)

    Hope you find just what you like. That el34 Shiva is an outstanding amp... I'd take that over the Mesa any day, personally.
     
  8. JackButler

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    That I am! Trying to slow way down, but can't fight the what if's!
     
  9. Dr. Tweedbucket

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    I had a IV and hated it. The tone is so freakin compressed to death .... just wasn't my thing, not to mention forever tweeking ( and yes, I know how to tweek a amp ). I have 2 MKIIIs ( red and a green stripe ) and IMO they are more dynamic, and have much better bass response than the IV. .... plus you can tweek in a good tone in about 10 seconds.

    I've seen too many good guitar players buy MkIVs and then sell them within 6 months ( for me it only took 3 weeks ).


    Actually, I would recommend an early 2203 JCM800 and a good over drive pedal over either. :)
     
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    i don't agree that the IV is smoother. It was a buzz machine to my ear. The III is much better, particularly when you play it loud.
     
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    That Green stripe will have bigger better cleans than any Bogner. I think you'll go for the Mk III as soon as you get the IV. III has heavy bottom like a Recto. Actually the 1st Rectos had Mk III transformers in them. Good luck. I have 4 Mesa amps, had 8, it's all good.
     
  12. phyrexia

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    What kind of Mark III did you play? It was a Simul Green Stripe?

    I bet you'll like the IV a lot though. It's pretty awesome.
     
  13. BudLite

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    The Mark III's are marginally acceptable at best, Avoid them, they never get the tone you want.
    A Fuchs amp is WAY better IMO....The mark 2 can get some decent tones. My advice, move on from the mark III
    it will not make you happy....
     
  14. daveowens2007

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    mine's been reworked and its amazing..(not for sale.).its a tweakers
    amp..I had the IIC+ mod (and) a pentode/triode switch installed..
    its sitting on top of my Mako CHW...its got killer tones.
    there not just metal amps..



     
  15. phyrexia

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    yeah i have to disagree with budlite.
     
  16. JackButler

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    Oooh, should be fun! So many opinions make this a good place. I'll surely post in on how I like it!
     
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    oooh dear,going down that boogie route....i can never ever figure out what people see in boogies,bizzare amps
     
  18. JackButler

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    Thanks for the support Julian!
    I too thought that for along time, been there done that, but I figured they are worth giving another shot as my ears have changed.
    FWIW, the green stripe I played clean was just great! Rythmn no, lead pretty decent.
    Soon enough, soon enough I'll know.
     
  19. Wizard of Ozz

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    I would agree with the idea that the MKIIIs (red/blue stripe) have a more agressive, edgy tone where the MKIV is a smoother more laid-back voicing.
     
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    Don't know about the Mark III because I haven't played one. I partially traded for one last week and it's due to arrive Thursday.

    I had a Mark IV for about a month before I decided to sell. It was very fatiguing to listen to for more than a half hour. The cleans had an ice pick quality to them.

    I love the smooth OD I can get out of my C+ and I hear that the Mark III Red Stripe is similar.
     

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