Boss DD2 and DD5.....maybe its time to Waza them up?!?!?

The-Kid

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I always felt the DD5 had a lot of mojo and many seem to like their old DD2s too.....




Ever think we may see Waza versions of either anytime soon.



DD5 is arguably the sound of the 90s and DD2 of the 80s.



Hell just reminiscing on an old DD5 I use to have. That sucker sounded good and yeah a pretty classic sound.


Trying a couple of the DDs over the decades not all sound exactly alike even with parameters dialed in close to each other. Its like they each have their own mojo. Maybe it wouldnt make sense as there is the DD200 and DD500 but definitely feel there is some magic to each iteration and mojo unique to themselves.



If they could replicate that and add some extra stuff. Why not? Would be nice.
 

monty

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They should make a Waza pedal that encompasses the DD-2/DD-3/DD-5/DD-6/DD-7. That would be nice. However, if they do that I wish they would make it where it remembers the tap tempo when you unplug the pedal. I got rid of my DD-6 because it wouldn't do that.
I would love that- a compact DD with a duel mode selector for the 2,3,5,6 and 7 would be epic! With all they crammed in the Space Echo I would hope this would be possible.
 

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They should make a Waza pedal that encompasses the DD-2/DD-3/DD-5/DD-6/DD-7. That would be nice. However, if they do that I wish they would make it where it remembers the tap tempo when you unplug the pedal. I got rid of my DD-6 because it wouldn't do that.

They did this….
It was called the DD-20. Just got a little fat. (It’s still worth making room for and it remembers your tap setting).
 

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I have a long chip DD3 and a DD5. I‘ve had several DD7’s and DD20’s over the years, and they do not sound like the 3 or the 5.
I’m not sure what they got right in those pedals, but they sound really great.
 

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True, I love my DD20 but man it takes up a ton of PB space (I also use a external tap with it).
Since they seem to be making compact versions of the 20 series now, that would be a great one to do.

I know it is a space hog. I’ve got the RE-20 back on my board and no way both will fit. (Finally gave the El Cap a spin with V1 prices tanking. For sound maybe not function though the RE is better for me).
At home the DD-20 lives off to the side often. Last in the chain as a looper and long delay Frippertronics fun machine. Really like the modulated setting too. Gets your inner Edge out.

A compact version with control from external switches would be great.
Needs expression capabilities too. Lacking on the original DD-20.
I’d miss the screen though.

I still keep my DD-2 it’s really pretty great sounding. Paired with a DMM one should be happy for life.
Of course in these parts not the way it works.
 

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I would be first in line for an accurate DD-2 reissue, but with tap tempo. But those old Roland chips are long extinct. I don’t see that ever happening.

The Warm mode on the DD-8 is a reasonable appropriation. That may be as close as we get to a new DD-2.
The DD-500, one of the vintage digital modes is an excellent “copy” of it.

I have a long chip DD3, I love it, but other DD3’s are still great and unique compared to many digital delays with an analog feedback path.

 

The-Kid

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I don’t think there is anything worth recreating beyond the DD-5.
The 6+ just don’t have any of the mojo.
The long chip DD3 and the original DD5 are the Goldilocks of Boss digital delay.
Dd6 didnt have mojo I agree.



I dont know why but it just never sounded good like it didnt bounce or was elastic enough as the others or lively, just a very one dimensional sound IME. DD5 was gold pretty much and the DD7 and DD8 followed with a lot of the mojo but in a different way.


Hard to say whats the nicer DD when it comes to 7 and 8. Thats a tough one. But yeah both great IMO.
 

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Dd6 didnt have mojo I agree.



I dont know why but it just never sounded good like it didnt bounce or was elastic enough as the others or lively, just a very one dimensional sound IME. DD5 was gold pretty much and the DD7 and DD8 followed with a lot of the mojo but in a different way.


Hard to say whats the nicer DD when it comes to 7 and 8. Thats a tough one. But yeah both great IMO.

I'm really happy to hear all of these DD-5 praises.

When I was a teen, I had been playing constantly with my "band" for a couple of years, and the DD-5 was the first pedal that I had to have. It was pricey for the time; $240 if I remember correctly (small store, probably overcharging. ) But I pushed for it as a birthday present from my parents, and they went for it, even though it was way more than a normal spend for them. They're both pro musicians, and saw the hours I was putting in, even if the results were (and are) amateur.

I was and am a huge delay user.
At that point, was listening to a ton of Nick McCabe, Jonny Greenwood, '90's Neil Young, Pumpkins, and I just heard in my head huge swirling clouds of echo.

DD-5 did everything I wanted it to do for sure.
At some point after getting my first job and some disposable cash, I was running it stereo to a Hiwatt (still have) and a Vibrolux. Tons of Reverse mode, and had discovered volume pedal swells. Loved it. Sounded gorgeous.

My DD-5 got stolen when I was in my mid 20's. Had it for a decade I guess, and used it every day.
Had to use cheap multi fx units for a few years there, and hated them.

Eventually did the boutique thing. Was curious about how Boss would compare tho, and picked up a DD-6 at some point. Never enjoyed it.

Kind of thought any difference was all in my head. Didn't really think DD-5 had all the Mojo and the DD-6 was sterile and uninspiring.... but kinda.

I'll have to pick up a DD-5 soon. Get back to living that Reverse life.... lol

Cheers
 

monty

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I still keep my DD-2 it’s really pretty great sounding. Paired with a DMM one should be happy for life.
Of course in these parts not the way it works.
Ditto here. I have the DD200 and had the 500 but the 20 just has something special about it. I just can't replace it.
They did: The DD-200 is the successor to the DD-20.
True but the sheer simplicity and awesome sounds are in the 20. Not as versatile as the 200 but it sounds better (IMO) and is a piece of cake to dial in a great sound. Plus they did do 2 new versions of the Space Echo and included a compact unit.
 

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DD2 long chips are the schiznit
Yeah in a sense a lot of the old chips are gone but coolAudio makes repros.

Maybe something else can be used as a substitute that works close enough. Either way I figure the overall tone, sound quality has to do more with the general archetype of the pedal and topology of it probably plays a stronger role in the pedals tone than just two or three components in regards to that chip.
 

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I'm really happy to hear all of these DD-5 praises.

When I was a teen, I had been playing constantly with my "band" for a couple of years, and the DD-5 was the first pedal that I had to have. It was pricey for the time; $240 if I remember correctly (small store, probably overcharging. ) But I pushed for it as a birthday present from my parents, and they went for it, even though it was way more than a normal spend for them. They're both pro musicians, and saw the hours I was putting in, even if the results were (and are) amateur.

I was and am a huge delay user.
At that point, was listening to a ton of Nick McCabe, Jonny Greenwood, '90's Neil Young, Pumpkins, and I just heard in my head huge swirling clouds of echo.

DD-5 did everything I wanted it to do for sure.
At some point after getting my first job and some disposable cash, I was running it stereo to a Hiwatt (still have) and a Vibrolux. Tons of Reverse mode, and had discovered volume pedal swells. Loved it. Sounded gorgeous.

My DD-5 got stolen when I was in my mid 20's. Had it for a decade I guess, and used it every day.
Had to use cheap multi fx units for a few years there, and hated them.

Eventually did the boutique thing. Was curious about how Boss would compare tho, and picked up a DD-6 at some point. Never enjoyed it.

Kind of thought any difference was all in my head. Didn't really think DD-5 had all the Mojo and the DD-6 was sterile and uninspiring.... but kinda.

I'll have to pick up a DD-5 soon. Get back to living that Reverse life.... lol

Cheers
Same. I would have been better served with an RV-3, honestly, for my Cure tones jones, but I got the DD-5 instead for... $180? In about 1996?

It served me every step of the way. The first decade was just 350ms or so for texture, or short times for slapback. But when I finally achieved modern psychedelicism, it was there for me, with the reverse and the looper. When I discovered tap tempo, it was there for me. When it turned into McCabe-esque delay with dotted eighths about 5-10 years ago, it had me covered. It and a DS-1 were my first pedals, and they've stuck with me, the DD-5 hasn't left my rig since 1996, even if it hasn't always been on.

When Ed O'Brien told those guys on YouTube (who couldn't understand the giant clear canvas that Eno records and the like give a guitarist to play over and paint on) how one can get started playing experimental guitar, he said something to the effect of "get a Boss delay pedal". I'd say he's right.
 




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