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BOSS KATANA 刀 amplifiers

guitarman3001

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Interesting. On that video he says that the Tube Logic that's used in the Blues Cube amps is COSM based. But I've also heard and read that Roland claims the Blues Cube amps are absolutely not using any kind of COSM.

Now I'm curious to know which one is the real truth.
 

MrWhoever

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The Waza amp release makes a lot more sense to me now.
By launching it first at that price point they show their ambition to compete with all the high quality offerings in that price range.
I suspect they never intended to release wide, who would at that price point? From a company that offers 99% very reasonably priced products for a big part of the market (and the vast majority of their customers is not 'into' products like us TGP readers).
I have never heard a WAZA amp, right now its not available on amazon, sweetwater has the head discounted from 3.6k to 2.6k. No customer reviews found, not that surprising for any amp at that price point.
In Germany it costs 2.6k before taxes, 3.1 after. You want to go full Waza, of course, so the 4x12 will cost 1.4k on top of that. At 4k, I am sure one can negotiate and get the 100$ tone cable for free.
So never having heard it, i would assume it is a good amp at least? Who wouldn't make a good amp at 4k? And Boss makes really decent stuff in the 500-1000 dollar range at least.

They definitely show they are of the same lineage in the design, both have the kanji letter, similar knob desings etc.. no wonder the waza is kinda chinzy looking (for that price).
That 'gen' of tone is soon available at (presumably) 200 bucks... I think the demoed tones are useful, duff showed off how it sounds with some crunch and mild gain settings, and how it sounds when not played in time. Could easily be a 300$ amp to my ears :aok. And if the pricing structure is correct, there won't be much difference between the models outside of more speakers and the bigger power amp. Maybe for the top model they will throw in another 2$ knob and a 5$ processor!
 

MmcGrouty

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The Waza amp release makes a lot more sense to me now.
By launching it first at that price point they show their ambition to compete with all the high quality offerings in that price range.
I suspect they never intended to release wide, who would at that price point? From a company that offers 99% very reasonably priced products for a big part of the market (and the vast majority of their customers is not 'into' products like us TGP readers).
I have never heard a WAZA amp, right now its not available on amazon, sweetwater has the head discounted from 3.6k to 2.6k. No customer reviews found, not that surprising for any amp at that price point.
In Germany it costs 2.6k before taxes, 3.1 after. You want to go full Waza, of course, so the 4x12 will cost 1.4k on top of that. At 4k, I am sure one can negotiate and get the 100$ tone cable for free.
So never having heard it, i would assume it is a good amp at least? Who wouldn't make a good amp at 4k? And Boss makes really decent stuff in the 500-1000 dollar range at least.

They definitely show they are of the same lineage in the design, both have the kanji letter, similar knob desings etc.. no wonder the waza is kinda chinzy looking (for that price).
That 'gen' of tone is soon available at (presumably) 200 bucks... I think the demoed tones are useful, duff showed off how it sounds with some crunch and mild gain settings, and how it sounds when not played in time. Could easily be a 300$ amp to my ears :aok. And if the pricing structure is correct, there won't be much difference between the models outside of more speakers and the bigger power amp. Maybe for the top model they will throw in another 2$ knob and a 5$ processor!
Wow, with a snarky post that long, you'd expect at least something to be funny.. ;)
 

jamester

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Not even close.

112 50 watt combo $199
100 watt Head $349
112 110 watt combo $329
212 100 watt combo $499

At least that's what I've seen so don't hold me to it.
Side note, I just noticed Sweetwater has the Roland Cubes (not Blues Cubes) very heavily discounted.

Hmmmmm.........
 

gtrplr71

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well it definitely is going to put Line 6 on notice at the price point. I think it sound fairly fluid. I guess the brain trust at BOSS needed to recoup the cost of the WAZA thingy.
 

Sleepyscholar

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Interesting. On that video he says that the Tube Logic that's used in the Blues Cube amps is COSM based. But I've also heard and read that Roland claims the Blues Cube amps are absolutely not using any kind of COSM.

Now I'm curious to know which one is the real truth.
I'm not sure he does say that. I know the subtitles say that, but what I'm hearing translates better as 'Tube Logic, when added to a base of COSM...' The way I understand this is that the Katana amps are based on COSM, to which has been added the Tube Logic from the Blues Cubes. Thus the Blues Cubes aren't using any kind of COSM, but Katana is.

Granted, I'm not a native speaker. I've only been here 25 years. But I do work in translation, and I have learned not to trust translations in this country.
 

Sleepyscholar

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One thing that came up in the video posted by the OP was a stray line about the Waza amp: that it was intended to capture their 'ideal guitar sound'. Now I haven't heard a Waza live, but like most posters here, I saw the promotional video and thought it sounded a bit tacky. But actually that makes sense once you remember Roland/Boss is a Japanese company. With the Waza, they were not aiming at all you folk with your exquisite taste. They were aiming at the people who want to capture the typical guitar sound of a successful Japanese rock (by which you should probably understand 'image') band. And the Waza delivers that in spades. Just check out a few Japanese bands on Youtube like Exile, Dir En Gray, L'arc En Ciel and so on.

The Katana, on the other hand, is aimed at guitarists around the world, so as well as being cheaper, it's probably a bit more workmanlike.
 

jds22

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After watching some of the newer vids on this amp I'm definitely interested in test driving one.
 




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