BOSS KATANA 刀 amplifiers

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  1. BenoA

    BenoA Member

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    I got 2 Peavey 4x12 and a Mesa 1x12, plus my Traynor combo that could be converted as a 1x12. So if I'm getting te Katana head, the 5" speaker would be just an added fun accessory. I'm mostly curious to know if the Katana head can sound similar to my THR5 "Brit Hi" amp sim which I really like.
     
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    Okay. Well, I never played a thr5, only the 10x that I sold. I would say that the katana through the 4x12, cranked at 100-1w settings, on the Brown setting sounded fantastic and more dynamic to me than the 10x. But, I only ever played the 10x at low volumes, and again, comparing rhe 4x12 to 2x5" is unfair. The yamaha is very cool and sounds 'large' in some way, though. If we are talking only about the quality of the modeling... I'd say the Yamaha would sound better 5" vs 5". Because of the yamaha's processing? Because it's built only for that purpose? I dunno. I just really didn't like the katana speaker who it was activated in person and I didn't like it in the youtube video I saw. My feeling about the katana 5" speaker is that I would not want to use it except in a 'pinch,' while I could enjoy the Yamaha.
     
  3. gassyndrome

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    I've just been comparing them back to back. I love the THR10X and just got the Katana head yesterday. The 5" is 90% of the way there but with a little bit less stereo effect - for what it is, its very cool. Easily loud enough for some home noodling and considering the price of the head, its a quite amazing feature.

    Great time to be a hack guitarist.
     
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  4. chadprsman

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    I think the speakers in my alarm clock are 5". I haven't tried the internal speaker in my head, but I did get the tone studio app working, added the GA-FC, it's a pretty cool package. I'm not into tweaking menus and all that, but it was easy to set up 4 cool channels. Still figuring out how to have effects "in the que" on pre-sets so I can add as needed with the footswitch. It is plenty loud, I'm playing in 50 watt mode at about 9 o'clock.
     
  5. SRT2011

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    Just set up the preset with whichever effects you might want access for that preset, then just footswitch any or all of them out using GA-FC prior to storing the preset. The GA-FC still "stores the ones you switched out" prior to saving and are available via the footswitch whenever you want to engage them. I do this frequently to have a Boost and/or Delay in the que for lead solos, but that same preset works great for rhythm crunch sounds or even clean sounds if I selected that preamp. The GA-FC makes the Katana very versatile and fun to play. Hope this help....
     
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  6. BenoA

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    So anyone can comment on the THR's "Brit Hi" vs the Katana's "Lead" or "Brown" amp sims? And I don't care about the 5" speaker, I'm just curious if the amp sim is comparable to the one in the Yamaha.

    After getting the THR5, I was hoping for a head version but what Yamaha released was not exactly what I was hoping for, but the Katana really is! I can't wait to try one.
     
  7. mdrake34

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    This is nuts. How are these so cheap?

     
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  8. Blix

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    With the loop placed before the fx section, the 100 can also serve as killer wet amp in a wet/dry setup, this gives me all kinds of dirty ideas :)
     
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  9. Ilduce

    Ilduce And now for something completely different! Supporting Member

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    I know right? Great time for being a musician!
     
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  10. BenoA

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    Indeed @Ilduce

    I think I got my answer with the latest video. Still has that "Boss" signature sound but it does sound good. Tom Quayle's was pretty awesome too! :)
     
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    I was wondering the same thing, since Boss and Roland are the same company, and
    the 100watt Katana head is $350, but the 100watt Blues Cube Artist head is $1,500 !!
    Yes, it's a different amp with different features, but 4 times the price?
    I can afford either one, I just wonder how much difference there really is, especially on the clean channel.
     
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  12. bluescube

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    Sounds like the Bluescube models each circuit component. Katana most likely uses a simpler version of modeling.
     
  13. snshami

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    I actually bought a Katana 100 for my son and after trialing it I sold my Marshall DSL40c and bought another one for myself. It does not sound nicer than the Marshall but is not worse either. The Marshall had more bottom end and deep bass than the Katana and has the edge for high gain power chords but for most other stuff the Katana is its equal. Its high gain lead is nicer and more musical and there is far more versatility in terms of being able to hook up to a PA, being lighter, less noisy, less heavy, more compact and probably less temperamental. It cleans up even nicer than the Marshall and has none of the artificial decay of a modelling amp. The comment in the note above about not being able to hold a note certainly does not apply to the Katana.

    I have had a Roland Cube 80XL and some effects on it were quite useable but this amp is totally superior to that Cube. So I dont understand the comment about Boss "honk"

    I actually spoke with a Roland representative who told me that the Katana series is not a modelling amp and does not use COSM technology but is rather a mass produced incarnation of the Waza series. Apparently it is purely analogue in the power and pre amp sections. Apparently the power amp section is designed to exactly replicate what a tube amp sounds like. It then uses sophisticated DSP for the effects. When you think about it all effects pedals except the very simple ones are chips with DSP.

    The silly thing is that the internet is full of keyboard warriors who do not know anything about tone. These are the numbties who say they hate non tube sound but then wax lyrical about boutique pedals without seeming to realise that pedals are all solid state and most are digital with the sound created by a DSP chip. So I tend to ignore the views espoused on most forums.
     
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  14. Stinky Kitty

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    Agree 100%
     
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  15. Elantric

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    Owning both a Cube 80XL and Katana Head, I completely agree with
    snshami's post above with his review and perspective on the Katana amps.
    http://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/22890596/

    I'll dive and take pics of the Katana amp's internal PC board that should reveal the inner workings tonight.
     
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  16. mdrake34

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    Cool.
     
  17. Lution

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    Still digging the head and working through the many sounds it can make. I bought a Friedman BE-OD pedal to compare it going through the clean channel to the brown channel. They both sound similar, but the BE-OD has this juiciness to it that i love! I'll likely keep the BE-OD and use the Brown channel for some lower gain early Aerosmith type of tones. The Great news is that this amp likes real pedals in front of it. It has a quiet and transparent fx loop too. My SPACE sounds good through the loop and plays nice with the amp's own reverbs and delays.
     
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  18. Elantric

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    Internal pics of Katana Head


    Disassembly
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    Internal 5" 40 watt Speaker
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    AC input / Power Amp
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    Side View
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    Input Jack Board with preamp
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    Rear Views
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    Preamp Section


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    A/D
    I observe:

    multiple AKM AK5720VT A/D IC's
    http://www.akm.com/akm/en/product/datasheet1/?partno=AK5720VT

    AKM AK5384 4 channel A/D IC
    http://www.akm.com/akm/en/product/datasheet1/?partno=AK5384VF

    AKM AK4482VT DAC
    http://www.akm.com/akm/en/product/datasheet1/?partno=AK4482VT

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    DSP - Roland ESC2 (Same as GT-100, GP-10, Roland System 1m, ,etc)

    http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=80823&start=75
     
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  19. gazzy_burns

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    Deciding on whether to pickup the 100W 1x12 or 100W head....
     
  20. Axe-Man

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    That isn't exactly amp porn is it...ugly it 'tis...very ugly indeed!

    No idea if it's DSP or SS TBH. I just care about the tone.

    I am strongly considering one of these for a simple grab and go combo (100w 1x12).

    Can do it do metal? Not brootz but still proper aggro hard rock/metal?
     
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