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Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by john lan, Sep 9, 2016.
Have you tried the cleans from the sneaky amps? The twin clean sounds really good.
The standard clean channel isn’t a good “fender clean”, it’s more like a keyboard amp that gets slightly gritty in a nice way. Very flat response.
the sneaky twin is what I am using. it sounds really good. not quite a fender but it does have that warm yet glassy thing down. It's also GREAT with the built in blues driver. Really nice low gain leads on the neck pickup.
I was using the sneaky 1959 for my mid gain "crunch" sound, but after getting a katana mini I really fell in love with the stock crunch sound. So I went back. The brown is my "stock" high gain sound with a TS in effects position one if I need to chugga chugga.
But yeah the parametric EQ makes It great. We have 2 guitars, 2 synth players and bass and drums so being able to carefully sculpt my sound to fit right is important.
Yep, I've found that using either the parametric or global EQ to cut the lows around 80hz and the highs around 6k really helps.
Did try it when the sneaky amps where flavor of the month but never looked back in many months. I will have to re-visit it.
Anyway, I'm not much a clean guy, so I'm very happy with the Crunch, Lead and Brown. Boosted or not they deliver and get the character out of the guitar you use with them. Simply add some boost from the built-in overdrives if you need more grit.
The drive sounds on the front panel....nope. I can get some decent stuff from it but i exclusively use 2 of the sneaky amp models and rarely use the front panel tones. The kat IS capable of very good drive tones and those who think different may not have delved very deep into the possibilities or delved in deep in the wrong direction. Thats what i did for a while but i eventually found what gets the drive tones i wanted from it. The katana is not discriminating....it can get the $hittiest of tones or the best. Pretty much the same with all digi amps tho, which is why they are not good amps for people who detest time spent tweaking.
The Clean channel seems to work well with my pedals in front. Not mind-blowing, but it works.
Lately I've been playing the Crunch channel with the gain around 9:00 and no pedals. I'm getting some nice warmer tones with some grit and breakup when I dig in. A little verb and delay. Pretty much good to go for a minimalist grab n' go setup.
It's funny, the longer I own my Kat 100C the more I have come to appreciate it's wide variety of tones. At first, I wasn't floored, to say the least. But I've been patient with it and have taken the time to explore what it has to offer, often by experimenting with some pretty extreme EQ settings with surprising results.
I also have the GAFC but strangely, don't find myself using it much. At this point I either leave it on the Crunch channel and work my guitar volume or put my pedal board in front of the clean channel.
It's been a somewhat strange journey with the Kat, I have to admit. All in all, I'm glad I've hung on to it. It's fun to play and sounds pretty damn good at volume with the band. I now realize there's, inevitably, more interesting tones to be discovered. It's a unique amp in that respect.
I'm curious, what are the 2 sneaky amp models that you use?
The 1959 I+II and the clean twin. The latter i don't really use for clean but with the blues drive pedal model. Both models i set so i can get good cleans rolling back the guitar vol. But as a clean amp tone the twin by itself is pretty good, better then the front panel clean IMO. I just don't use it that way. Cool thing about the 1959 is the tone knobs are incredibly useful and wide ranging so u can get most anything you need out of it, plus it clans up nice from the guitar. At least for me it does, as i use fenders with vintage type singles.
I love the 1959 amp models. Adding the tube screamer with 0 gain to them is heaven to my ears!
I agree 110%. I did that very thing with the fender mustang GT and the old mustang always. Almost every patch i would use i had the screamer on by default with the distortion all the way down and level up enough to kick the input, then lower the amp model's gain till i have the amount of OD i want. And with the katana and 1959 i love it too, but i also like that model by itself. But I tend to agree...with the screamer itls absolute heaven and set right it cleans up with the guitar volume as well if not better then the amp alone. If anyone hears that and doesn't think it can hand with a great sounding tube mp of a like style of tone, they have ear plugs in.
Hi everyone, I have already share this on the facebook page, but I want to share it here too...I made a few patches with my Boss Katana 50. I made it with a strat type of guitar (Yamaha Pacifica) and the master volumen cranked (0.5w mode). I don´t use any of the sneaky amps, just a lil bit of global EQ to get a Fender clean tone. The patches are:
- Fendery clean with tremolo and spring reverb, I was looking for the Curtis Mayfield tone, I usually play the song "I´ve been trying" with this. If you disable the tremolo, you get a basic fendery clean tone
- Bluesy patch, it is just the clean with the gain high and a lil bit of boost, slapback delay and spring reverb
- SRV patches-(three basic tones): clean (fendery clean with a low gain TS in front), leslie speaker (like the song "Cold shot) and dirt/lead tone (fendery clean with a TS and solo boost engaged, it´s a lil bit like use two TS pedals at the same time).
I hope you like it, thank you and cheers from Spain!
Am I the only person who doesn't care for the sneaky amps? Any of what the sneaky amps can do, can be EQ'ed off of the models that come stock with the Katana. Sure, you gotta spend more time fine tuning, but the Fender Clean, 1959, etc, are all the exact same thing as what's already on the amp, just tweaked differently.
@zoteboy awesome patches. Thanks for sharing
I'm with you. I tried them all and then went right back to my own presets. Maybe they just weren't my thing.
I believe there is a reason why those models didn't make it on the "official" amps list. IMO.
I agree for the drive sounds, although I liked The 1959 pretty well. The fender twin clean sounds totally different from the stock clean, and for what I do it's way better.
Hi Zoteboy, I'm also Spanish from Granada and I've tried your patches before and like them a lot! Un abrazo!
Hi! It´s a lil bit strange speak to you in english haha, but that´s the rule of TheGearPage, I´m from Tenerife, thanks for trying my patches. Un abrazo!
No. I did try them when it was the flavor of the month. I did a factory reset a long time ago and never looked back.
I didnt spend enough time to love or hate. It wasn't worth having to mess with the second tool to manipulate things. More and more I just use the amp as a 4 channel head with the loop as a boost.