Well I finally found a 6V6 amp that sounded like something I'd like a lot, more on that later. Then RL in Fla said I should get some Brimar 6V6s .. and I did (from KCA very fast thanks!). Originally it had JJs and wow the Brimars ROCK! More headroom, better sounding cleans, seemingly more output as well and great over drive sounds. Very very happy, and superfast service!