Budda Superdrive 18 II owners, chime in!!!

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  1. oacikgoz

    oacikgoz Member

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    Hey guys,

    Do you think a crunch box would help me get a tight bass response when it is used as a booster on the drive channel. I wanna play modern metal. Not my cup of tea, but I still wanna play metal occasionally.

    Do you think an MXR 10-band EQ thru the FX loop is a better choice for this... superdrive 18 has LOTS of gain on tap, maybe EQ'ing is the key.

    Thanks a lot!
     
  2. H Golf Sport

    H Golf Sport Supporting Member

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    Use to use an fish and chips eq pedal through mine all the time. Still wont get you a high watt amp bass response but definetly helps.

    aloha, rob.
     
  3. prsnstrat

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    Crunchbox might be overkill, it might work at lower drive (on the pedal) settings...but you might lose some touch sensitivity. I'd try before buying one. A lower gain OD would be better I think, like an OCD set with gain around 9:00.
     
  4. oacikgoz

    oacikgoz Member

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    The reason I asked for CrunchBox is that it boosts bass. OCD does not do that. What do you think?
     
  5. Rod

    Rod Tone is Paramount Silver Supporting Member

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    when I need more bass from my SD-18. run a Boss EQ thru the FX Loop...It doesn't really tighten the bass up though....for a tighter bottom end, I'd look into an SD-45 or 80
     
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    I use my Bad Monkey through mine when I want modern metal type tones. Tightens up the bass and adds that nice crunchy sizzle.

    A
     
  7. Ricker

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    EQ in the loop is your best bet.
    Also you must pull the mid switch for the brighter ganier OD.
    A closed back cab with some big magnet speakers are gonna beef things up.
    With all of the above I do believe the Sd18 will be as tight as any 18watt could possibly be.

    Rick
     
  8. prsnstrat

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    I'd agree, this is most likely the ticket.

    I've found that a Tube Screamer tightens up a high-gain amp nicely, as well.
     
  9. oacikgoz

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    Isn't tubescreamer mid heavy and doesn't it decrease bass and treble? That's what I thought it does... If it decreases bass, how can it tighten a high-gain amp? I checked one out, and thought that it's only good as a solo boost.
     
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    A TS has worked great in my experience, for keeping the bass tighter on both a Classic 30 and a Mesa Dual Rec. It re-shaped the EQ in such a way that somehow made it tighter. If you already tried it with the Budda, then it probably didn't do what you wanted. Did you try the EQ in the loop yet?
     
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    Try it. If it doesn't work for you, try the EQ suggestions. TS type pedals have long been used for this purpose, though....I've been using them for this since the 80's, and the Bad Monkey is a gem for 40 measly bucks.

    A
     
  12. Flameout12

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    Bass boost in front of the SD18 amp is not the way to go since the pre-amp tubes fart out with too much bass in hi-gain.
    You may find you actually get a tighter sound by decreasing the bass with a pedal...try the Bad Monkey as a clean boost & turn down the bass. Then bring it back in with some kind of EQ in the loop as suggested.

    The MXR 6 EQ will rock that amp in the loop....$70. You can also use it to boost your highs a little which will give you a more modern metal sound.
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/MXR-M109-6Band-Graphic-EQ?sku=151103

    The Phat speaker is not the best metal speaker. Consider trying a Warehouse Veteran 30. It can do that job well and will respond better to your tone knobs.

    And may I suggest looking at 3 TungSols for the 12AX7s. These are brighter/snappier tubes than the JJs. JJs do well as EL84s.
     
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    I have not tried yet on mine but I did on a rectoverb, may be you can try to use a BBE sonic maximizer, on the rectoverb was amazing, like taking a blancket off the amp...
     
  14. prsnstrat

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    Interesting. There's one of those at my local shoppe.
     
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    Just wonder if anyone knows which pre-amp tube does what?
    I know there are only 3 so it can't be too hard. :D
     
  16. Mullenski

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    Love a Java Boost in front of mine = nice big tight chunk!
     
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    email Jeff Bober at Budda; jeffb@budda.com

    Great guy!
     
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    My Budda came with a Sovtek 12AX7WB which adds a little bass and gain to the tone. I didn't necessarily prefer it, but it certainly sounds a bit different from other 12AX7s too.
     
  19. Ricker

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    No....the WB especially in V1 will add less gain to the amp.
    WB is a less gainier version of WA

    Rick
     
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    I hear more gain with the WB in the V1 slot. It has a fuzzier, bassy tone too! Maybe it is just the tube I got. But I swear i've read that it adds bass and gain somewhere.
     

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