Bugera v22 vs Fender blues deluxe reissiu.. help me out..

[sahertian]

Hi all...

I sometimes think, how about change amp. I have a Bugera V22. Nice sound, good reviews. Big thing for less money!!!
Sometimes I think, would it be nicer to have a Fender amp??? I like my fender telecaster highway one.
I am thinking of Fender blues deluxe reissue (tweed)

My question:
Will it be a significant difference to have that Fender amp OR is the Bugera V22 also quite similair? (and keep my money in the pocket)

Help me out... (-;

Thanks,
Ron

 

[GCDEF]

Neither is a very good choice.

IMHO, the Bugera would sound better and the Fender would be more reliable, but I wouldn't want either of them.

 

[sahertian]

Neither is a very good choice.

IMHO, the Bugera would sound better and the Fender would be more reliable, but I wouldn't want either of them.

(for someone with little money, cannot buy superamps.. sorry for my bad choice)

 

[grizdeluxe]

As you probably already know, the V-22 is a great choice for versatility. I played a handful of gigs without resorting to a pedal for overdrive. The clean channel can be jangly or dirty due to the excellent master volume and Pentode Triode switch. The OD channel has tons of gain on tap. I preferred mine set low as a boost for leads, or heavier rhythms. I found the reliability the same as any other amp brand.

The Blues Deluxe is a clean machine that excels at, well Blues! Not a bad amp but you will need a pedal for different gain textures.

 

[Alton]

I really, really like my Bugeras! Great tone, reliable and inexpensive. What a deal! That said, if you need a Fender clean then you need a Fender clean and only a Fender is going to provide that for you unless you pay big bucks for one of the better amps available.

I play in a cover band and I need an amp that will provide a decent amount of easily accessible versatility. The Bugeras provide just about all I need. I had a Fender HRD and I love those cleans! However, it could not not provide the versatility I sought. I ended up selling it. I still miss that amp just for that shimmering, sparkly clean tone. But the Bugeras fill the void rather well with their great tones and versatility.

Geez! Now that I'm talking about that Fender again it's like all of a sudden I want another one...

 

[strattitude]

Neither is a very good choice.

IMHO, the Bugera would sound better and the Fender would be more reliable, but I wouldn't want either of them.

I think the Fender blues deluxe is a very decent amp! It might not be point to point handwired, but it has decent Fender tone. If you can't play a gig with one of these (if it is Fender inspired tone you need), you need to go and practice. I think these amps likes pedals too.

The Fender hot rod series is at least good enough for Scott Henderson and Michael Landau, and I think they have great tone, but they are also great players.
Having an expensive handwired amp, won't make you a better player.

Have not tried the Bugera.

 

[bluesky636]

I have a Blues Deluxe Reissue which I love. Great blues tone, sounds even better with my Allums Supra Plus modded Boss OD-3. A change from the factory Groove Tubes to a full set of JJs from Eurotubes really made a big difference in improving the tone of the amp.

 

[bluesking55]

Bugera's are crap and side by side test this weekend , Fender has a beautiful bottom end responce, Bugera is a transistor radio

 

[electricfactory]

I have a Blues Deluxe Reissue which I love.... A change....to a full set of JJs from Eurotubes really made a big difference in improving the tone .

Please expand on this, what exactly did you hear by way of improvements after you changed tubes ? And did you stick with the same speaker ?

 

[ProToneThinline]

I think the Fender blues deluxe is a very decent amp! It might not be point to point handwired, but it has decent Fender tone. If you can't play a gig with one of these (if it is Fender inspired tone you need), you need to go and practice. I think these amps likes pedals too.

The Fender hot rod series is at least good enough for Scott Henderson and Michael Landau, and I think they have great tone, but they are also great players.
Having an expensive handwired amp, won't make you a better player.

Have not tried the Bugera.

I had an original Blues Deluxe, and really could never get a very good "Fender" tone out of it. When most people think Fender, they think blackface, and the BD is definately not in the bf camp. It does a decent tweed approximation when it's cranked, but unfortunately it was too loud for my gigs.

BTW, most guys like Landau and Henderson use the Hot Rods simply because that's usually what provided in the backline. I'm sure you won't hear those guys recording with it. I did a show last summer where backline was provided. I had my choice of a Hot Rod Deville 4x10 or an ancient Peavey Classic 212 (not a C-50, but the old hybrid Classic). I used the Deville for soundcheck, and almost immediately switched over to the Peavey........

 

[champster]

I had a V-22 for about 6 months. It wasn't a bad sounding amp, if you like EL84s, but it just always sounded sort of dull to me. I did install better tubes which helped a bit but it still sounded some what dull. I've owned a blues deluxe for several years. Stock it's not a bad sounding amp at all. Has a sweet Fender clean tone and it works great with OD pedals. I did make just a few changes which really made this amp come alive. First was a set of SED winged-C 6L6s. Great sounding power tubes. For preamp tubes I just mixed and matched what I had on hand until it sounded the best to me. Mostly I had EHs installed. Next I swapped out the stock speaker for an Emi RW&B. This speaker works great in these amps. Great cleans and also made the drive channel sound much smoother.

 

[bluesky636]

I have a Blues Deluxe Reissue which I love. Great blues tone, sounds even better with my Allums Supra Plus modded Boss OD-3. A change from the factory Groove Tubes to a full set of JJs from Eurotubes really made a big difference in improving the tone of the amp.

Please expand on this, what exactly did you hear by way of improvements after you changed tubes ? And did you stick with the same speaker ?

Sound was much smoother, less ice pick. Better bass. I kept the stock speaker. May change it out next year, but not as anxious to do so now. I used this tube set from Eurotubes:

Fender Blues Deluxe-Deville Blues OptionPrice: $66.25 Description: A hotter matched pair of the JJ 6L6GC's for the reissue or the original fixed bias 90's Blues Deluxe or Deville for a big warm tone along with a standard ECC83S for V1, an ECC81 for V2 to drop the gain with one balanced ECC83S for the phase inverter in V3. These will reduce the preamp gain for players wanting less gain.

https://ssl.eurotubes.com/cart/index.php?page=view_products&category_id=7&sub_category_id=122

I rebiased the amp to about 37 mA plate current per tube @ 414 vDC plate voltage.

 

[PatrickE_FenderADV]

My 2 cents... the Blues Dlx is a better amp. You're not really comparing apples to apples IMHO. An EL84 vs a 6L6 are different machines. I've owned a original Blues Deville (MIA), an orginal Hot Rod Dlx (MIA) and a HRDlx RI (MIM). They all have their upside and they all sound similar. The Blues are warmer sounding and the HR are, well... hotter sounding.

I have played the V22 in GC and I owned a Chinese made EL84 Vox... they both sound fine. BUT... you'll have more fun playing a Blues or HR Deluxe.