Burstbucker Pro's versus 490T

iGouger

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Didn't care for the 490R/Ts... Truth be told don't care for Burstbuckers either. I thought about maybe going Dirty Fingers... Thought about maybe going BKP... but eventually replaced them with Seymour Duncan Black Winters... made a world of difference. Couldn't be happier.
 

stratzrus

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In my experience the 490 series pickups can sound great in the right guitar and crap in another. The pickup has to match the instrument.

I'm not a fan of Burstbuckers in the guitars I've played that had them but they may work very well in yours.
 
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The 490T in the bridge of my Faded Les Paul sounds awesome. Don't like the Burstbuckers at all. The 490T is the first stock bridge humbucker I haven't felt compelled to rip out and replace with a Duncan JB. It really fits the guitar well.
 
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bigben55

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I'm "pretty sure" I have Burstbucker Pros in my 2016 LP Studio Faded. No stickers on the undersides, but they read 8.17k br and 7.87k neck. The PCB system has been replaced with traditional parts.

I'm not a humbucker guy, not a Gibson guy. I know I didnt like the 490/498 pickups in a LP Studio I once had. But honestly, I really like the BB Pros. They clean up well, are articulate but are ballsy enough. The neck isn't mushy and bassy, and the bridge has bite. Not too hot either. They do NOT pummel the amps front end, and arent overly mid heavy.
 
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Penguinchit

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I have BB Pros in my Studio. Never had or been able to try the 498s long enough to form an opinion about them. Plus, at my skill level and sonic capabilities, I'd probably never be able to tell the difference anyway.

Heck, my favorite P90 is the one that comes in the Epiphone Special 1 with P90s...
 

still.ill

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I'm "pretty sure" I have Burstbucker Pros in my 2016 LP Studio Faded. No stickers on the undersides, but they read 8.17k br and 7.87k neck. The PCB system has been replaced with traditional parts.

I'm not a humbucker guy, not a Gibson guy. I know I didnt like the 490/498 pickups in a LP Studio I once had. But honestly, I really like the BB Pros. They clean up well, are articulate but baldly enough. The neck isn't mushy and bassy, and the bridge has bite. Not too hot either. They do NOT pummel the amps front end, and arent overly mid heavy.
Yeah thats the same model I have, the 2016 LP "T" Faded Brown Les Paul. i Love how the neck never gets sticky, its less than 8 lbs, and the tone I definitely prefer to many higher end les Pauls.
 

Penguinchit

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Are BB Pros supposed to be brighter than 498s? They told me that mine came with those because of the mahogany cap. Wouldn't be as bright as a maple cap...
 

bigben55

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Agree! Mine is the fireburst finish. A previous owner rewired it with 4 CTS 500K pots, better switch, PIO caps. I HATE the glossy "normal" Gibson necks, but dont mind the satin finish one bit. I'd prefer the 60s neck shape over the bigger 50s shape I have, but its live withable.

Yeah thats the same model I have, the 2016 LP "T" Faded Brown Les Paul. i Love how the neck never gets sticky, its less than 8 lbs, and the tone I definitely prefer to many higher end les Pauls.
 

bigben55

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From what I remember, yes, they're brighter. The bridge is definitely not as hot. They definitely clean up better and the neck is more articulate.

Are BB Pros supposed to be brighter than 498s? They told me that mine came with those because of the mahogany cap. Wouldn't be as bright as a maple cap...
 

Gurn

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I prefer the 490 R&T in the Les Paul Faded to the Burst Buckers in my son's SG.
 

uab9253

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I'm "pretty sure" I have Burstbucker Pros in my 2016 LP Studio Faded. No stickers on the undersides, but they read 8.17k br and 7.87k neck. The PCB system has been replaced with traditional parts.

I'm not a humbucker guy, not a Gibson guy. I know I didnt like the 490/498 pickups in a LP Studio I once had. But honestly, I really like the BB Pros. They clean up well, are articulate but are ballsy enough. The neck isn't mushy and bassy, and the bridge has bite. Not too hot either. They do NOT pummel the amps front end, and arent overly mid heavy.
This is my same opinion! Those are the only two Gibson buckers I've ever owned, both in LP's but different models. I love the BB pros!
 

colinesquire

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Having used both in the same SG I’d use 490 r/t hands down. They meter in the paf-ish range but have a bit more mids & output. I found the bb pros unusably bright and thin.
 

Captainruss

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The 490/498 in the LP I had were, to me, horrible. I tried to like them, made adjustments to them, the set up, my playing but in the end I couldn’t make them work. Tried a 490T in place of the 498 and it was worse.

I have heard a lot of guys with SGs say the 490/498 is a great match more consistently.

BBs I’ve never owned but have played a few and I liked them way better than the 490/8.

Discovered P90s and I haven’t come back to HBs for a while.
 

Bluesful

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I have Burstbucker Pros in my LP Standard that I want to swap out for A4 OX4 pickups.
 

Windup 43

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Love the Pros in my ‘02 Standard, have never liked the 490 set in any guitar I’ve tried.
 

Gillespie1983

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I had a LP Special (see Avatar) with 490/498s and the bridge tone was fantastic--not too bright, never thought about rolling back the tone control. But with my LP Standard & Burstbucker Pros I roll the bridge tone back to 5. So, my ears think the Pros are brighter than the 498. However, the Standard has a Maple top while the Special is all Mahogany. Sorry, not a true comparison I guess.
 
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I’ve got the 498/490 set in my LP Special, and I can definitely see how some players would dislike them. They don’t do cleans very well at all, at least through my rig, and my Special lacks coil-splitting.
With some distortion, they come into their own: power and clarity and they just plain rock.

I doubt I’d choose either the 498 or the 490 if I were trying to upgrade, I’d probably go with a JB bridge and either a ‘59 or a Jazz neck. And coil splitting.
 

C-4

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I'm "pretty sure" I have Burstbucker Pros in my 2016 LP Studio Faded. No stickers on the undersides, but they read 8.17k br and 7.87k neck. The PCB system has been replaced with traditional parts.

I'm not a humbucker guy, not a Gibson guy. I know I didnt like the 490/498 pickups in a LP Studio I once had. But honestly, I really like the BB Pros. They clean up well, are articulate but are ballsy enough. The neck isn't mushy and bassy, and the bridge has bite. Not too hot either. They do NOT pummel the amps front end, and arent overly mid heavy.

I just bought a new LP Custom Pro, which has BB 2 and 3's in it, along with coil splitting and phase reversal on push/pull dials. The pickups, as described in the quote above, are wonderful. The guitar has the aggressive nature of an angry angel, and is perfect for commercial rock, country and pop. It cleans up well and works great for 1940's jazz and swing through my Marshall set for clean tones.

The 490/498 pickups I don't favour, but as was mentioned above, in the right guitar they are just as good. It gets down to what each person prefers, and nothing more.
 




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