Buy Boss DM-2 or wait for waza....

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by Kylef, Feb 6, 2015.

  1. Kylef

    Kylef Member

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    I'm a delay nut. Ive always been intrigued by the DM-2 and recently I missed out on one for a good price. Ever since then I've been searching for one.

    Now it's got me thinking, would I be silly to buy one when the new Waza version is coming up? I think I want it because it's original and vintage :console
     
  2. Coldacre

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    they're overrated. there's 300ms of delay time on the original and aliasing noise creeps in after 230-300 ms. I've owned both the mn3005 and mn3205 versions and ended up flipping them for silly huge money.

    for that kind of thing I found the AD-80 & AD-9 infinitely more usable, quieter and better sounding! there's also the AD-900 which is the king of straight up MN3005 chip delays. that thing buries the DM-2. as it should with 2 chips.

    personally I'd wait for the waza. you'll have 600ms to play with.
     
  3. Muzzy

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    Vintage prices have gone nuts on those things. You can do better for the money.
     
  4. Coldacre

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    exactly. the FX-90 does the same thing as the DM-2, at a quarter of the price. but no TGP cool factor. (must be that lack of....*ahem*... 'mojo')
     
  5. Rick Towne

    Rick Towne P&W--Praise & Western--on 6, 8 and 12 strings. Silver Supporting Member

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    Buy a used Retro-Sonic for about $165-170, with more features and equivalent tone. The other analog delays mentioned are right up there as well, along with the earlier Ibanez 10-series configured Delay Champ and ADL, and close relatives like the Arion SAD.

    The Waza DM-2 is making friends with the Malekko 919.
     
  6. Kylef

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    The DM-2 is mint, and £150 ($230)
    I have 2 Boss DD's, a digital and an analogue Echodrive, Aqua Puss, Timeline, DL4, Mooer Ana Exho....and yet I'm still tempted by the DM-2 for its classic rep.
     
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    I think that may be the same DM-2 i nearly snapped up earlier today, but i'm waiting to check out the Waza. From what i've been seeing, it's a lower price for a DM-2 than i usually see. Seen a few DM-3's for around that price, but DM-2's are usually higher.
     
  9. Joe Black

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    DM-2 is okay. I actually liked the DM-3 a little bit better...less obnoxious noise and graininess (if you will) in the repeats, so a bit more clarity, and also a little cheaper. Great "spaceship" oscillation, though, on both.

    I would actually be interested to hear how the Waza sounds...used DM's can be expensive and futzed about with...people open them up to mess with a switch inside that gets you more repeats is my understanding? Also, the last DM I bought came with a battery exploded inside it (morons) that had to be scraped out. First-world, vintage effects problems, I know...
     
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    I heard February 27 for the DM-2w. We'll see...
     
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    I was in the same dilemma and concluded I will wait for the Waza, I don't want to contribute with the crazy over-pricing for over-hyped gear (in my humble opinion).

    I had the DM-3 and liked it, I do agree there are perceivable differences between different analog delays, but in my opinion they become unnoticeable when playing, specially with a band.
     
  12. Occam

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    Minimoog seems like a good alternative. That's what I went with when I was looking for a small analog delay.
     
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    My suggestion is wait for the Waza to be unleashed and watch the (albeit limited) market forces drive down the price of DM-2 units. There will be A/B comparisons produced in the first few days following it's availability. You will be able to assess their qualities and take advantage of lower-priced originals if you so choose.
     
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    I doubt the Waza will impact market prices for a vintage 3005 DM-2 any more than the KTR drove down the prices for a vintage Centaur. But the Waza looks promising. I'd like to try one.
     
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    I think I've had a Waza on presale for like 6 months. At least. Over it.
     
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    I don't think the Boss DM-2W and the DM-2 are related other than inspiration, do you guys think they'll use the same circuit but just use newer bbd's and add length?
     
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    I owned a Boss DM2-Waza and thought it sounded pretty good - keep low mids in tact and at lower echo settings was very verb like. I sold it because I needed the funds, but now I'd like to get another one.
     

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