By request - can you guess the cost of the pedal by its tone?

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by guitarman3001, Jan 14, 2020 at 9:57 AM.

  1. Shiny_Beast

    Shiny_Beast Supporting Member

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    you shouldn't have taken the bait :)

    I dunno which is more expensive, but I liked #2

    Unless there's transistors to bin it most;y comes down to design and reliability.

    With jfet stuff and fuzzes though I believe expertise can play a big role.
     
  2. Tmidiman

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    Clip 1: medium priced
    Clip 2: cheap box
    Clip 3: high end unit

    I only have mono headphones at this time.

    2 was way over compressed, which spells cheap to me. That was painful. 3 had the best sound to me. 1 was in the middle, but leaned towards 2.
     
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  3. Tmidiman

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    Yeah I own number 2. I don’t care for it here ether.

    Time to buy #3!
     
  4. 83stratman

    83stratman Supporting Member

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    Listened to at work. Through Apple iphone buds that came with Iphone SE. All three had the same basic tone dialed in. First one the most flat eq wise, #2 had more thump than the others, and #3 had a weird something going on both on the top and the bottom.
     
  5. oansun

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    Yea but people are accusing cheating already
     
  6. oansun

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    I just listened to the noise during the second riff, imho, cheaper components and lackluster building makes a lot of noise
    But you’re still right about being able to tell better when playing
     
  7. HH1978

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    I liked pedal 3 better, a little less gain and more openness. So I'll make a guess on my favourite MIAB pedal (though I don't have tried many to be honest). Catalinbread DLS? That would make it a 180$ pedal.
    Second for me would be pedal 2. 130$?
    Then pedal 1. 50$

    If it's the other way around and pedal 3 is the cheapest, that's good news!
     
  8. guitarman3001

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    I suspect the people cheating wouldn't have posted on the thread otherwise anyway. Nothing lost, imo. And of course, now that the results are posted, people will start to "hear" things they didn't originally hear. It pretty much confirms what I expected.
     
  9. monkeybrains

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    I like 2 then 3 and 1 last.
    I thought 2 and 3 were close but didn't like 1. I think it lacked dynamics
    Edit - I saw the results. I actually own 1 and I really like it.
     
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  10. John Hurtt

    John Hurtt Silver Supporting Member

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    You can't tell the cost of a pedal by sound clips.
     
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  11. GuitarMike69

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    First one sounds pretty damn good, I'd guess it's $150-175 boutique pedal.
    Second sounds very similar, with a little more thickness and bass response, although a tad muddy, I'd say $100-$125
    Last one sounds thin and cheap, brittle with excessive noise between the chords. I'd guess this is the $30-40 Mooer or whatever.
     
  12. oansun

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    Lol well maybe so.
    Noise is the forever giveaway
     
  13. guitarman3001

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    Noise can be caused by many things. Pickups, power supply, cable, lights nearby, etc...
    The environment I was in was horrible. Bedroom with about 5 power strips off the same circuit everything was on, extensions, several lights, li ion battery chargers, etc.

    Also remember that to match the gain between the pedals I had to max the gain on pedal 3 while the other two were around 10:30 so naturally pedal 3 will amplify any noise already in the signal more than the other two.
     
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  14. Motterpaul

    Motterpaul Tone is in the Ears

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    Having built pedals I can tell you there is no way to guess what pedal any pedal is just by hearing it. The more you build the more you realize they all sound alike.

    If I had to guess I would say you had a Keeley Katana, a Timmy and some kind of Plexi pedal (FET transistor), maybe by Wampler.

    There are really only two solid ways to build overdrive pedals - using FET transistors for tube-like gain stages, or using diodes for clipping. My point is that any pedal that allows you to bias it, or that gives you the option of switching to different kinds of diodes - can be dialed in to sound almost like any one of these pedals.

    FWIW: my favorite pedals are FET (amp emulation) pedals, followed by any pedal that uses red LEDs as the clipping diode.
     
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  15. LikeAMotherF

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    Lemme see-

    Pedal 1- $80?
    Pedal 2- $130?
    Pedal 3- $30?


    I didn't love any of them, but there was something about 1 in the presence that was a little grating. I prefer 2, but not by a large margin. 3 is a cool sound, but sounded a little thin to me. So I'm guessing that's the cheap one?

    But now I'm scared I'm psyching myself out and 3 is going to be $250 and 2 is going to be $25!.....

    :bonk
     
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  16. nbessie1

    nbessie1 Gold Supporting Member

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    Of course!

    The more expensive it is, the better it sounds.

    Everybody knows that! :)
     
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    Earlier this year I found this youtube video with a blind test between a King of Tone and a Delta Labs Tube Overdrive which is about $25

    It's only Youtube but I can't tell which is which... don't think anyone else can judging by the comments

     
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    I think that is the entire purpose of this thread. Claims were made by certain individuals that they could. So OP took it upon himself to set up this test.
    Anyhow, listening to the samples provided, these are my guesstimates.
    Pedal 1 $$$$
    Pedal 3 $$$
    Pedal 2 $$
     
  20. Flatscan

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    The playing is fine. My comments are independent of the playing.

    Appreciating the above, none of the tested pedals constitute higher-end Plexi pedals.

    And none sounded particularly good, although I am not a fan of the Plexi sound.

    I was not surprised that the XVIVE sounded best to me, however. For the money, their stuff is quite decent.

    Edit: and it always makes me smile when folks that are active on a pedal forum tell you that all pedals sound the same.

    If I find a pedal sounds substantially similar to another pedal that I own, I sell at least one of them.

    Edit2: feel can't be captured in clips. Feel matters.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2020 at 8:08 PM

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