C is the new F

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  1. Turi

    Turi Member

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    ..**** this chord.

    x65343

    Double **** that chord when playing the root-fifth bass lines with this:

    665343


    Nah but seriously, damn. Killer chord to keep barred.
    I'm practicing playing through a whole song with barre chords and keeping my hands in the same area, so I'm using an E shaped barre chord for G#.
    A shaped barre chord for C#.
    That D# barre chord I posted above is a total dick. FYI.
     
  2. Aaron Mayo

    Aaron Mayo Member

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    Why, are you trying to win a contest? Lose the barre and just play on the middle 4 strings. I played rhythm guitar in a cajun band and had to boom-chick on a flattop all night long. It was all about pain management.
     
  3. Lephty

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    Or, if you need that highest note, try just putting the barre over the top 3 strings.
     
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  4. Bryan T

    Bryan T guitar owner Silver Supporting Member

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    Key of G# major?!?!? Call it Ab and make your life easier.
     
  5. Turi

    Turi Member

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    I likes that root-fifth bass.
     
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  6. Turi

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    No it doesn't.
    I'm playing along to a song and the dudes in G.
    I'm detuned a half step.

    Seeing it as G# makes more sense for me.

    Also man my brain registers sharps as easily as flats..
    No extra thought involved saying G# instead of Ab..
     
  7. Bryan T

    Bryan T guitar owner Silver Supporting Member

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    Good luck with the F##dim chord if it comes up.
     
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  8. Turi

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    It doesn't and that's just Gdim.

    I'm playing 3 chords.

    466544 for my G#.

    x4666x for my C#.

    x65343 for my D#.

    Simple I, IV, V in G#.

    I'm just using those shapes because the chords are right there all in basically the same spot.
    Only reason I'm not using less strings is because its a country number and I like being able to strum the strings from the D string down after each root-fifth bass note.

    The D# is just a dick of a shape to do.
    Especially when using my pinky to get the 6 on the low E for the fifth in the bass.

    Reminds me of when I was first trying to get F down when I was first learning.

    I can barre the chord fine, it's shifting into it quickly enough, and using my pinky for that alternating bass line, that makes it a bit of a douche.
     
  9. Bryan T

    Bryan T guitar owner Silver Supporting Member

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    It is in the key of Ab, but not in the key of G#. :) If you don't know what I'm talking about, that's cool.
     
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  10. JonR

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    Me too. I discovered the C shape for F on 5th fret, way back when that big fret 1 barre was still a killer. x87565 was so much easier. Of course, changing to and from other open position chords - not so easy.... ;)
     
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  11. Flyin' Brian

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    It works, and sometimes you have no choice.
     
  13. Phletch

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    Well, either keep working on it, or make your life easier and play the chord like this: x6888x. Then you can use your index finger real easy like to do the root-5th thang.

    Personally, I found that using (God forgive me, but I'm going to use the CAGED terminology here) that there C-shape chord in any place other than its open C position got a lot easier when I practiced doing hammer-ons with it. So, barre the 3rd fret, and hammer-on the other strings. Lather, rinse, repeat.
     
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    Play Betterman by PJ correctly and you get to practise that shape all day. It's not so bad.
     
  15. Clifford-D

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    You're playing a triad right? That's only three notes. The problem I have with such a dense triad with the doubling of the tones is, you lose the clarity of a simple triad. Clutter happens when the tuning is not spot on. Beating occurs and sounds bad compared to the more resonant three note version because of the clarity.

    With smaller chords you can do a whole lot more vertical movement involving melody and texture.

    But then, I may be missing the point entirely, it's, lol, been known to happen lol.
     
  16. muzishun

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    Unless I really needed those tight voicings (ala interstate love song or the like) I would be real lazy and play the G#
    x
    4
    5
    6
    x
    4

    With my thumb on the root.

    And the c and d sharps just barre shapes, using my 4th to bar. I find I like to use the pinkie on that shape (A) keeps my wrist in a comfy position, that's also useful for quick fills but... ya.
     
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  17. Average Joe

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    I'm a lazy ass bugger - unless the song specifically called for the full chords I'd play that as

    xx654x
    xx666x
    xx534x

    Also keep me from getting dirty looks from the keyboard player for taking up too much space
     
  18. ZeyerGTR

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    I use c-form barre chords all the time, but never fret the 5th on the low E string. I don't know how my pinky could cover the E and A strings and have everything else ring out cleanly. I never really thought about doing that, to be honest. I never really needed that low 5 (unless it's an open position C where you have unfretted notes). If for some reason I really wanted that low note I'd skip the higher notes in the chord and fret the E string with my ring finger and A string with my pinky (6653xx).
     
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  19. GtrWiz

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    Nothing to add except...

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  20. Phletch

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    I'm still trying to figure out why the OP is detuned a half-step. Is there more rippage to be had? :D
    Also, why is the alternating root-5th thing so important? If it's a guitar duo thing, I can understand, but if there's a bass player....
     

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