Call me crazy, but man, it is hard to beat broken in G12T75s.

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  1. mikebat

    mikebat Member

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    I have a g12-65 and g12-70 in my open back Marshall JCM800 combo and.....I have never had a bad thing said about them.
     
  2. DonaldDemon

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    This may be true. The old JCM800 412 I've been playing for years at our practice space sounds awesome. We always thought they were greenbacks but were shocked to see GT75s in there when we took it apart. I've always hated those speakers in the past. Either they sound good because they are so broken in our it was a good quad from a good year.
     
  3. Karl Houseknecht

    Karl Houseknecht Supporting Member

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    Hasty generalization here. I play at nothing but gig volumes with amps. Why bother otherwise? I don't find T75's pleasing. I know I'm not the only one. Ask Pete Thorn. Not his favorite either, but he only plays in his bedroom, right?
     
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  4. Hefalump

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    Everyone has their ears and opinions and favorites. Genre of music played can also change one's needs/taste in speakers. I CAN see why the G12T75 is the speaker of choice in Marshall's most popular cabs.

    I turn the presence and treble way down to 9 O'clock on my Marshalls when playing through a G12T75 cab. Also I am using speakers that I have beaten on for a while....so they are well broken in. I think that makes a big difference too, just like with V30's.
     
  5. bullet6759

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    They sound great in closed back cabs.
     
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  6. Karl Houseknecht

    Karl Houseknecht Supporting Member

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    No, I totally get where you're coming from. Even with my creamback 65 or 75 cabs, I have my presence and treble on my Marshall down around 9:00 too. It just needs to be that way.

    My objection was to Mr. Sleewell calling anyone who disagreed a bedroom player. That's just insulting and frankly not true. I spend more time playing live than playing at home.
     
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  7. Fireball XL5

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    I never cared for G12T75's with Marshalls. I find them too scooped in their voicing to bring those classic Marshall midrange qualities I like to hear.

    To my ears they are for someone seeking a more modern type of Marshall sound eq - wise (mid- scooped, bottom heavy, thin top end) - not for the old school Marshall tones of the late 60's/early 70's - which is my benchmark.
     
  8. gtrplr71

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  9. SgtThump

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    Yeah, many versions apparently. I just got an old JCM800 cab with the original G12T75 speakers and they really dont sound much like a brand new version.
     
  10. Hefalump

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    Wow, just goes to show you how we hear things differently. I MUCH prefer them over the Greenbacks for anything I play through my Marshalls.
     
  11. Hefalump

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    The BIG question is: is this due to construction changes, or break-in?????
     
  12. WhoJamFan

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    Whatever works for you is best.
    I have a 412 with 75s that needs a bit of gas behind it to make them sing.
    Unfortunately, for me, that's much too loud for just about any venue short of an unmic'ed outdoor show.
     
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  13. DeaconBlues

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    luv me some G12T-75s.
     
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  14. EADGBE

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    I like them too.
     
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  15. gtr777

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    They have a purpose and a sound...I do find they sound better when you can push them as well and they do need some break in time. Last time Satriani came through the area I asked what his cabs were loaded with and he said the stock 75's. His tone doesn't suck...ha ha.
     
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  16. mixn4him

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    Yep been preachn this since I found my cab with the wrong label and everything, thought I got G12-65's and opened it up and there they are 1st generation T75's. Sound nothing like current 75's
     
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  17. Humble Texan Fan

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    They evolved from the G12-65s originally. The earliest were rear vented and sounded very much like the 65s, followed by the non-drilled 75s with identical label but no vent. Then according to legend, Marshall wanted something from them that they didn't have and we have the T75 we know today. The 65 is rumoured as having gone through 13 stages of evolution and likely the 75 specs changed over time as well.
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  18. rummy

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    Agreed. The second comment was ignorant and didn't contribute.

    I prefer 65s over 75s.
     
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  19. jpage

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    There is some truth to his statement however. I wouldn't want to have to guess but a very large percentage of the most vocal and opinionated here have never been on a stage or played at the volume their amps were meant for in their lives. Stock 1960 cabs sound horrible at Guitar Center 'I'm on the phone' levels...
     
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  20. ledzep618

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    They are solid speakers for sure. All things being equal though I think a cab of well broken in V30s is the ideal speaker for guitar.
     
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