Can great fuzzes be mass produced?

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  1. Colamander

    Colamander Member

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    A lot of boutique companies either use rare components, custom match diodes, or tune the circuit by hand using trim pots etc. to get their fuzzes to sound their best. Are fuzz pedals the one genre of pedal that can’t be usurped by automated manufacturing? Are the best fuzzes always hand made? Or are there hall of fame fuzz pedals that use generic parts, and that just don’t need any TLC to produce?
     
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  2. captaincoconut

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    Let's remember that Dunlop mass produces excellent sounding Fuzz Face pedals.
     
  3. Stratburst70

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    As captaincoconut already pointed out, the Dunlop Fuzz Face Minis easily hang with boutique options costing 2-3x as much.
     
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    I’ve heard that the minis sound better than the regular sized ones is that true?
     
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    Vexter Fat Fuzz Factory is manufactured in significant numbers, and it still sounds pretty awesome, IMO.
     
  7. Johnny Fuzz

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    Yes, in Opposite Land.
     
  8. chankgeez

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    Wot? Where?
    Doesn't it depend on the type of fuzz? :confused:
     
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    Your premise involves your own assumptions and/or marketing hyperbole.

    I’m not going to get into the details because it will just start an argument and I’m just not interested in being involved. But just know that just because someone (anyone) tells you something is rare, unique, important, irreplaceable, or best as is is, doesn’t make that true. There are 4000 fuzz makers precisely because fuzz is not as special as claimed. (And I say this as a fuzzhead who is hugely into wild fuzzes).
     
  10. Fred Farkus

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    Couldn't have said it better myself.

    The way some of this stuff is marketed is shameful, in the way it promotes half-truths.

    I've built quite a few fuzzes and designed some too.
     
  11. MmcGrouty

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    Some companies mass-produce everything, but charge hand-made prices. Others actually measure each component with a meter and test every pedal themselves. Those are the ones worth the extra money, because extra time went into them.
     
  12. Colamander

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    I honestly don’t have an opinion about the hype. I’m just quoting common phrases used in their marketing. But just because fuzz pedals are simple circuits, doesn’t mean that there’s not a benefit to some hands-on TLC by the builder. I’m simply asking if that’s the best way to make fuzz pedals - components carefully selected, circuits tuned by ear, etc. etc. Vs. some machine pulling components randomly.
     
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    More consistent probably. Better? Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
     
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    More assumptions.

    This is how the mythology is maintained.
     
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    You’d need to know more about electronics for an answer to make full sense.
     
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  16. MmcGrouty

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    So you don’t believe that anybody is actually putting time in to building pedals? Of course you can’t believe everyone (Vertex) but there are some honest people out there.
     
  17. Colamander

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    Ok. Well thanks for saving me the trouble of having to struggle through your complicated explanation...
     
  18. Fred Farkus

    Fred Farkus Gold Supporting Member

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    It completely depends on the circuit design. Some fuzz circuits are horrendously designed. In those cases, testing certain component values etc *might* be necessary whereas in a well-designed circuit that would not be critical. That's just one example though and not a valid general-case assumption. There are many levels, layers, and variables to this. As the other poster mentioned, you need to understand electronics to really get a handle on it.

    Just try stuff out. If you like it, buy it. If not, don't. If it sounds good to you, then it *is* good. It's really that simple.

    And never believe the hype, about anything. Always try it yourself.
     
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  19. AndreasG

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    This absolutely!
     
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    The red and blue Dunlop fuzzes are useable and good sounding. I don't know how many 65 Amps produce a year, but the Colour fuzz sounds great.
     
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