Can I get this sound from my Timeline and/or Space? My Bloody Valentine content

[ChaseTMP]

How can I get the sound at 3:57 using my Timeline and/or Space? Any setting ideas are greatly appreciated.

http://youtu.be/HrXuvDRSwN8

 

[4nd3h]

Maybe dynamic delay?

 

[JamesSGBrown]

How can I get the sound at 3:57 using my Timeline and/or Space? Any setting ideas are greatly appreciated.

http://youtu.be/HrXuvDRSwN8

Just use reverse reverb with a very short trail/decay time. The "stutter" on his sound is only there because he's using delay as opposed to a reverse reverb (which is what Shields uses)

 

[ChaseTMP]

I was initially trying to use the Space's reverse, but it didn't sound quite right. I know Kevin used an Yamaha SPX-90 with an early reflections program for a lot of the Loveless sounds, live. I play original songs & like to dial-in my own sounds, but thought it'd be fun to mess around with a MBV cover or two during practice. I played around with my two units for at least 45 minutes and couldn't get close to the sound.

 

[seiko]

Just use reverse reverb with a very short trail/decay time. The "stutter" on his sound is only there because he's using delay as opposed to a reverse reverb (which is what Shields uses)

He's not using reverse delay though. He's using the 1-second multi-tap mode on the Hazari. In mono, so it doesn't make that ping-pong sound but more of a slice effect. For extra grunt, run the mono output into the stereo input, it sums the dual processors for a bigger sound. Actually does sound v. close to the live MBV versions.

 

[ChaseTMP]

He's not using reverse delay though. He's using the 1-second multi-tap mode on the Hazari. In mono, so it doesn't make that ping-pong sound but more of a slice effect. For extra grunt, run the mono output into the stereo input, it sums the dual processors for a bigger sound. Actually does sound v. close to the live MBV versions.

Would I use the Timeline's dual-delay to mimic the EHMM w/H's effect?

 

[seiko]

Would I use the Timeline's dual-delay to mimic the EHMM w/H's effect?

Possibly. I don't have a Timeline but it MUST have some kind of multi-tap/Ping-pong mode that would get you close to this. Note that he has a bit of treble knocked off on the delay with the Haz's filter.

Edit: Could the trem delay be set really fast? That would get very close.

 

[ChaseTMP]

Thanks, Seiko. That'll give me something to work towards, tonight.

 

[golguth]

Hey Chase, did you come up with some good MBV presets with the Timeline ?

 

[Futureadvocate]

I've been on the same search as you and i don't think there is anything on the Timeline that will get you there.I had the Hazarai years ago and i had this sound dialled in too.It's the best sound out there for Kevin Shields stuff imo.
I was able to get something similar on the Space but i don't have the pedal anymore.All that I can recall is that it's not on the reverse reverb algorithm.

 

[Futureadvocate]

Just use reverse reverb with a very short trail/decay time. The "stutter" on his sound is only there because he's using delay as opposed to a reverse reverb (which is what Shields uses)

That stuttering delay sound is on the drum loop at the very beginning of Soon.I've often wondered if he actually used a reverse reverb,maybe there some piece of gear around at the time that could dial in that sound on the Hazarai.