Carl Martin Plexitone - I Think Its Professionally Voiced

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  1. JubileeMan 2555

    JubileeMan 2555 Member

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    Wow...ok. So, I was running into a problem with my band. We play MOSTLY standard rock stuff, but we had been adding more and more heavier sorta tunes (Velvet Revolver, Muse...etc) and My current setup wasn't getting heavy enough.

    I then built a JCM800 with mods to get me that heavier gain needed. It really started to sound great, but I had two amps. I tried an amp switcher, and THAT failed miserably. So I was back to square one.

    So I took a chance with the plexitone. I had heard good things, and I liked that it wasn't in that boutique pedal world which tends to voice pedals for bedroom players.

    Well I'm rather impressed. If anyone has spent anytime with actually cranking Marshall circuits, you'll instantly realize the near perfect voicing this pedal has.

    From what I'm hearing it sounds like most if not all the big negatives tend to sprout from what people fantasize what a modded plexi sounds like, and not what an actual plexi sounds like. There is so much high end and upper mid harmonic mess in a real plexi, and thats where the magic is. Somehow, this pedal recreated that. Its not intended to smooth everything out to mush. Alone, in a room, it can sorta sound a bit harsh, but that same sound in a band context is wonderful. That same sound becomes the crackle and spark that a rock band needs.

    EDIT: after a few days of learning the pedal:
    Plexitone Highgain 2

    Plextione Highgain 2 Wet


    Now, with all that said. The ONE voicing issue may be that it seems to have a bit too much low end. Tends to get a bit boomy. Not really that big of an issue. I'd probably just EQ that out a bit at the board live.
     
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  2. DanHorse

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    Seen a lot of comments over the Plexi-Drive being one of the best, and yeah, geared torward seeing a cranked amp. Theres a good following of this pedal, certainly delivers, but, as you say, not ideal for lower volume/home use.

    Loved the clips, just got in from work and that was an immediate de-stresser!
     
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    The bass content can be modified. Here a quote from a thread on HRI:
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    You can reduce the bass by decreasing the value of this cap. I got the info from the manufacturer.

    The original value was 2,2uF. I replaced it with a 1uF cap. As i said i bought a few different caps and found out what worked the best for me.
     
  4. Matt L

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    So, what are you running that Plexitone though on the clips? The JCM800?
     
  5. JubileeMan 2555

    JubileeMan 2555 Member

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    No, the JCM800 doesn't really have a proper clean setting since the first two gain stages are stacked before the first volume pot. Besides, this pedal is meant to replace that amp.

    I used my main gigging rig:

    '71 Les Paul
    JTM45/100 with a bit more filtering set "clean" (roughly 4-5 on the volume)
    1974 Marshall Cab
     
  6. Matt L

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    Ah, I see. It sounds fantastic.

    When I had my PT, I was using a DRRI on about 3-4, stock speaker, EHX power and Mullard preamp tubes on the Normal channel. This is where I've gotten my impressions from the pedal, which are still favorable but on the "bright" side of things, as you could imagine.
     
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    JubileeMan 2555 Member

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    Yes, I honestly believe this pedal is extremely amp dependent which works against it in reviews since some will probably have a really harsh response to the pedal.

    But I think all the great gear really is dependent on everything else. If it wasn't then the item puts too strong of a sonic stamp on the sound which washes out everything else you put in your rig.
     
  8. Rid

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    Was never meant to be a pleasing polished pedal, the big lows are a part what I know from using those old big amps...got tired of going deaf over them tho'.....:D
    No it is not always compliant to all sorts of amps...
    Nor was in it meant to be, neither was it really meant to be a dual drive pedal.
    The first prototypes where single channel ones...like the new one that will eventually show up, when the boss is done being difficult...hehe

    Old 100 watt heads are glassy boomy buggers....and not too easy to control either if you never have used big amps in anger before....they tend to scare the modern crowd of guitar players alot;)

    The pedal dig Celestion type speakers, mostly British or alike voiced amps....and smaller amps may not sound too good either with it!

    I used both humbucker equipped guitars and ones with singles only, I am kinda oldschool so I use both kinds!

    Grew up on 70's and 80's rock.....Marshall and such where sound of those ages.

    In short it is a specialised pedal....mostly because going deaf over the roar of those old monsters was getting unacceptable, as I like to keep my hearing for as long as possible!

    Niels
     
  9. JubileeMan 2555

    JubileeMan 2555 Member

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    Hey Rid,

    pretty cool to have a designer chime in.

    Its also good you're upfront on what its meant to run through. Too many products claim to sound great in everything with everything into it. My feeling is those WORK with everything, but don't sound top notch... jack of all trades, master of none... etc.:)
     
  10. JimEff

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    The Plexitone is the most amp dependent pedal I've owned. Sounded great through my 59 Bassman RI but through my other amps it sounds like artificial fizz.
     
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    I found it a great pedal and even had the pleasure of A/B ing it through a 100w Metropolous...we then cranked the Metro up to 10 (roaringly loud) and the Plexitone TBH was a killer pedal for getting that roaring Plexi sound.

    I then bought a modded jose Plexi from Nik at Ceriatone (Yeti) and the PT was then kinda redundant as that amps roars (bellows!) at any volume.

    Out of all the SS drive pedals I've owned, I think the PT is (IMHO) probably the best.
     
  12. Rockerduck

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    Yes, the plexitone my favorite.
     
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    agree.
    arc furnace,
    plexitone (i have vertex mod)
    ethos pedal

    makes me a pretty spoiled guy for OD tones.

    i hear the AC tone is also great.
     
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    awesome post... the sound of an actual marshall does tend to scare off the boutique crowd- who hold that muffled bedroom tone with no high end, to be truly, "authentic".
     
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    Jubilee, I don't hear harshness in your clips. Can you elaborate on this a bit? I like the sound of this pedal for my Marshall 50-watt and my Germino C45. I notice also that you and the designer who chimed in are saying that it's not great for lower volume but for cranked up amps, yet you also say that you have your jtm45/100 set on @ 4 and he says he wanted something to help alleviate having to crank up the loud amps. 4 on the dial is not loud to me, so would you elaborate on the volume thing as well? This is a pedal that interests me as a Marshall man. Thanks in advance!
     
  17. Rid

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    ^...well as just set the amp for clean....maybe alittle loud clean too;)
    Full tilt is really something that gnaws into your eardrums tho'...
    So clean loud is more ok...as it is not as pushy....I always go for the almost there push in the ears....not so much about wattage or anything like that, but more how much the amp is a yeller or such!

    The reason for some small amps that do not like the PT, is that they are already clipping, and the amount of lowend will make it way too pushy for that application, there is more useful with a more ts style pedal I think...depending on what ever sound you're after.
     
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    Ok, so if I was to set my 50-watt 1987 circuit at say, 3-4 volume, the PT would work well at giving me the cranked Marshall OD sound? Seems like if that's the case it would be at least somewhat useful for jamming at home as well as being a great pedal for gig use, right?
     
  19. JubileeMan 2555

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    Those clips are the second round of clips I made. I deleted the links tto the first two. I've since learned how to better dial the pedal in with my setup. I had the tone knob a bit further down then normal. I'm still experimenting. a little higher, you get some of that authentic Marshall "harshness"... which sometimes I want! Think Slash's sound at times.

    Also, keep in mind. I'm running with a quad of '74 greenbacks that really smooth things out.

    Amps don't need to be cranked. You want the amp to be relatively clean. An already overdriving amp (at least heavily overdrivng) makes the pedal sound strange. Compressed and messy without any note definition. I Had my jtm45/100 at 5 on the volume for those clips. Any higher and the amp distorts a bit more then I like with the pedal.

    Give the pedal a try. I bet you'll really dig it with your setup. BUT! First do this.... Turn all the knobs of your amp to 10 and play. How does it feel and sound? Thats basically what you'll get with the pedal. Lots of players THINK they want the sound of a plexi on 10, but in person, its very hard to control.

    What players think they want is the sound of a plexi they hear on a recording! In person, its a whole different ball game.

    OH! and keep in mind. All these recordings and playing at home I'm doing is with an attenuator set at whisper volumes. The pedal at its current settings with the amp at 5 is VERY loud for home playing! In fact louder then even gigging levels since I usually set hte attenuator at -8 at gigs.
     
  20. DICKIE C

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    Oh, I've done the everything on 10 thing MANY times. I absolutely love it. My JMP50 gets SLIGHTLY mushed out on 10, but oh, the power! :love:

    But obviously, I can't do this often at home and indeed my Marshall would be too loud at those settings in most gig situations (not all ;)). Hence, the need/want of a good pedal. I'd like for it to be as transparent as possible as I love the natural tone of my amps and don't want them overly colored. Also, I like to play some of the 70's and early '80s classic metal that I cut my teeth on, so I would like to have the ability to add some gain when I feel like it.

    So yes, I would like something that I can use at home for these tones as well. Perhaps it can't be done? You're right, there are many builders out there who claim that their designs 'do-it-all' but actually don't. I want to make the right choice.
     

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