Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe

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  1. juri

    juri Supporting Member

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    Not sure if mentioned already but Catalinbread did announce that the bell epoch pre will be coming next year.
     
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    Along with some other new things apparently. Be interesting to see where the company goes with Howard gone. Their niche is clearly recreating older effects and sounds, and classic amps. I can’t imagine they’ll deviate too far from that.
     
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    Not an issue for me, but I'm sure I've played pedals with detent selector switches. TC stuff?
     
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    I think they exist, but not with as many 'detents' as needed for the number of programs.
     
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    I'm no engineer so can't vouch if this particular switch would work, but there are definitely 6 position detent switches out there.
     
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    I remember Howard giving a reason why they didn’t go with a detent potentiometer. I forget what it was
     
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    I've realised that I'm thinking of the Echorec with the 12 programs, not the BED.
     
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    Where did Howard go to? I searched and could not find the answer.
     
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    Meditating in the Himalayas. :)
     
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    I need more money........
     
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    been a slow burner for me. I still hate the top end roll off but have accepted I need to have it before a buffered pedal if I want that back.
    what it gives is worth it. nothing sounds as good as the tape delay on this when my amps are cranked up.
     
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    What if you just crank the treble on your amp?
     
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    Would using a buffer right after the BED negate the preamp effect completely or just lessen it?
     
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    No, it just helps retain treble frequencies. The output impedence of the pedal is high because of the passive mixing stage, so the closer the buffer to the output the more treble you keep. A long cable run to an amp can result in a duller sound. As Howard points out, this was often done intentionally to help tame the treble in loud Marshall amps
     
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    its a possibility if I switch the pedal to trails mode and adjust my tone but I like switching it in and out in true bypass mode as I'm still fiddling with the placement and effect it has on other pedals before and after it.
    At the moment I find it annoying because I get my tone so it sounds great, switch the BE on lose some of the frequencies that are pleasing to my ears. Unless I place a buffered pedal after it & I don't own a dedicated buffer or many pedals that are not true bypass.
    The best solution I've found so far is to run another delay after it that has a switchable buffer like the Digitech Obscura or Tonal Recall but I use a small board and don't always want 2 delays on it.
    I'll get there, thanks for your suggestion.
     
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    I’d start by putting it in trails mode and seeing if you can dial in your amp to sound the way you like with the BED preamp constantly running. Might make things easier.
    Remember most Amp EQ is subtractive so you’re not adding any noise by turning your treble up higher.
     
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