categorizing Delays (please don't put this off) ;-)

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  1. Stratman76

    Stratman76 Member

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    Hoping this will be educational. I'm trying to categorize delay pedals; expertise is sought to educate TGPers everywhere! I'm doing this from a voicing/tonality standpoint rather than a features bent (tap tempo, max delay time) So...

    Delay/echo pedals fall into the following voice/tone categories (with examples):

    Analog Tape Echo (all are out of production?)
    WEM/Watkins Copicat (I know the Verve's Nick McCabe used one of these but have not ID'd a track)

    Tube Tape Echo
    Fulltone TTE
    Echoplex (out of production)

    Metal Disc Echo (same principle as tape echo)
    Binson Echorec (a favorite of Gilmour in early Pink Floyd...this unit mechanically used metal media instead of poly tape)

    Space Echo (or Multi-Tap...still tape-based)
    Roland Space Echo RE-301 (out of production)

    Analog
    (strictly circuit-based = sans tape)
    Diamond Memory Lane
    Retro-Sonic Analog Delay
    Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man
    Maxon AD-999
    Maxon AD-900
    Toneczar Echoczar
    Homebrew Electronics Mimic Mock II
    MGMusic "That's Echo Folks"
    Malekko Echo
    Boss DM-2 (out of production)
    Boss DM-3 (out of production)
    Analogman AR20DL-XL (600ms max delay time)
    Analogman AR20DL (300ms)
    Ibanez AD-80
    Ibanez AD-9

    Digital but designed to be at least mostly Analog voiced
    Blackbox Quicksilver?
    Pigtronics Echolution
    T-Rex Replica
    Goudiefx Delay
    Dr. Scientist Sunny Day Delay
    Hughes & Kettner Replex (no tape but actually uses a 12AX7)
    ThunderTweak Delay
    Freakshow Digilog
    CMATMODS Deeelay
    Carl Martin Delayla XL (there is certainly some question about a both wet and dry analog signal)

    Digital but with at least some respectable Analog voicing within
    Eventide Timefactor
    TC Nova
    Boss DD-20
    Line 6 DL4 (Keeley modded)
    Boss RE-20
    Electro Harmonix #1 Echo
    Ibanez DE7

    Digital
    Guyatone MD-3
    Boss DD-3 (Analogman Hi-Cut modded version provides added analog voicing)
    Boss DD-5 (out of production)
    Boss DD-6 (Analogman Hi-Cut modded version provides added analog voicing)

    Monday Morning Growl Delay? ;)
    The sound I make before getting out of bed on Monday morning.


    Should a category be added or a description changed? Please correct any mistakes and if you know of famous player references and/or definitive recorded examples, well, you walk on freakin' water in my book- please share with us all!
     
  2. Joses

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    If i'm not wrong the T-rex Replica is digital but voiced like an analog.

    Also, you can add these too if you want:

    Analog (strictly circuit-based = sans tape)
    Maxon AD-9
    Maxon AD-9 Pro

    Digital but designed to be at least mostly Analog voiced
    Mad Professor Deep Blue Delay

    Digital but with at least some respectable Analog voicing within
    EHX Stereo MM w/ Hazarai

    Digital
    Boss DD-2
    Boss DD-3
    Boss DD-5
    Boss DD-6

    ok brain freeze...thats all i can recall for now :)
     
  3. re-animator

    re-animator Senior Member

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    yes, the trex or tc delay are both digital delays with analog voicing. As is the carl martin red repeat, sib mr echo, etc.
     
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    Nice list, I was actually going to create a comprehensive one listing some of the features, i.e. tap tempo, spill-over, etc.
     
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    john b Supporting Member

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    I'd put the H&K Replex under Analog. Killer delay.
     
  6. Geetar_Will

    Geetar_Will Supporting Member

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    I'm guessing the SIB mr echo would be in 'digital but designed to be mostly analog voiced'. Still my fav it is.
     
  7. guitarist58

    guitarist58 Member

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    Here's a couple more (lower priced ones)

    Digital but designed to be at least mostly Analog voiced (supposedly? ;))
    Visual Sound H2O
    Guyatone MD3
     
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    btmish Member

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    I am pretty sure the Dr. Scientist is Digital (analog voiced).
     
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    The Guyatone MD3 is definitely digitally voiced...crystal clear repeats.

    Under Digital but with at least some respectable Analog voicing within i'd add:

    Digitech Digidelay

    and I'd also move the Ibanez DE7 to this category.
     
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    The Pigtonix Echolution and H&K Replex are both digital.
     
  11. Stratman76

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    Thank you all!

    H&K Replex is indeed digital (like a Valvestate)
    Pigtronix Echolution is a hybrid unit where it appears the output section is analog (as are most of the "analog" units).
    T-Rex Replica is not analog.
     
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    Either I am missing it, or you missed the DM2 and DM3 under analog.
     
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    Korg SE-300 and SE-500 can go along with the Space Echo.
     
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    Maxon AD900 under analog
     
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    The direct signal on the Echolution does not pass through any digital circuitry, but the delay is all digital.
     
  16. bluntage

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    Great list! I've been researching delays recently and this really helps as I can't seem to keep things straight in my mind.

    :p
     
  17. Flyin' Brian

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    Did I miss the DLS Echotap?

    Digital but good analog sound.
     
  18. drolling

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    Unless I missed 'em, here's a couple more - one priced rock bottom & the other way, way up in the stratosphere; Danelectro PB&J and Bob Moog's Moogerfooger.

    Both really cool pedals, the 1st being digital, but very gnarly & funky sounding compared to BOSS etc.. The other one's analog all the way, with the option to control just about every parameter via expression pedal.

    Just before he passed, Bob won back the rights to use his own name, so earlier MoogerFoogers are branded "Big Briar", but identical to current production in every other way. If they didn't convert the guitar's passive signal to line level, I'd own all of em!

    The Dano's really fun in it's own way, too - my fave feature being the button that toggles back & forth between long and short time; one tap to go from slap-back to long, spacey trails. At around 50 bucks, this little guy delivers lotta bang! Really, really crappy bypass buffer tho'. True 'tone-suckers' in every sense of the word, these need to be in a loop when not in use..
     
  19. minjason

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    not sure if someone mentioned this already, but the pigtronix echolution is digital, not analog.
     
  20. PlexiFuzz

    PlexiFuzz I know karate. Voodoo, too.

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    Also in the digital but designed to be Analog voiced is the new Earthquaker Devices Disaster Transport.
     

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