Celestion Cream in Deluxe Reverb?

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  1. Echoes22

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    I am considering swapping the Cannabis Rex in my Silverface Deluxe Reverb with a Celestion Cream. I am looking for something that will sound smoother when pushed with fuzz pedals and not breakup too early when played clean. Currently I find the cleans to sound pretty good with the Cannabis Rex but I am really not digging it when I use fuzz. I also have a Tweed Deluxe with a Hellatone A25 that sounds awesome when I hit it with fuzz (and used to sound like poo when it had a Jensen C12Q) so that's why I am thinking I might just want to switch to alnico in the Deluxe Reverb.
    Someone suggested I take a look at the Cream and Gold and that the Cream would probably handle higher gain better. I might also take a look at the Hellatone A50 since I have had good results already with the A25. Can anyone here make me a recommendation before I commit?

    Thanks!
     
  2. big mike

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    Can't comment on the cream, but that's exactly why I like the Scumback M75 in my DRRI.
     
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    I too moved on from CRex to ET65 and now Alnico Cream. If you’re looking for a good balance between speaker break up and headroom, the Cream is your ticket. It doesn’t really break up, but will give you enough compression and alnico sizzle that gives you a good harmonic. Good lows and.. LOUD.

    Now if you’re digging extra speaker break up, look for Gold instead. Jensen P12Q were pretty good, but just a tad farty when I had it on my limited DRRi. Can’t really chime in about the Hellatones, but from what I read ppl are happy about the A25. I bet that would give you much extra textures to your fuzz tones, if you go into that direction.
     
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    Imo a gold is way too bright for a deluxe
     
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    I’d go with a different ceramic speaker. I don’t like the C-Rex at all for Fenders. I don’t care for alnico speakers in blackface/silver face amps at all. They sound great with tweeds and brown amps, but it just hypes the wrong frequencies for me in the blackface stuff.
     
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    Isn't that a greenback clone? I hadn't really considered one of those since I assumed it would break up very early and not deliver clean tones.

    Thanks for the feedback, definitely still have the cream at the top of my list

    Since I mostly use a tele, that is not at all what I would want out of the amp so probably will not go with a gold.

    What would you recommend then?
     
  7. Chris Scott

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    I've had very good luck running a WGS Veteran 30 in mine. I play Tele's 90% of the time.

    ...they work really well in a number of different amps too - great speaker.
     
  8. big mike

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    Clone of the 60's 35oz M75 greenback. I use the 65 watt variant which doesn't break up as early. Brilliant with any pedal and my DRRI.
    Fuzz, TS style, Nobels, Klon(es), stacked, you name it. Holds together nicely.
     
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    Have a gold in there. I have the cream Alnico in a Princeton Bourdeux.
    Love alnicos. I did hear good stuff about the Hellatone
    and tone tubby stuff and scuminco in there.
     
  10. GenoBluzGtr

    GenoBluzGtr Silver Supporting Member

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    Try the Celestion A-Type. it's a Celestion, but with more of an "american" sound. It's a touch darker and WAAAAAYYYY Smoother than a Vintage 30... sort of "greenback-meets-Jensen C12N" to my ears. I find it works great for both cleans and driven tones. No harshness at all. And they're not super expensive, either.
     
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    This! I have a A Type in my DRRI and its killer! It really handles things when you crank the amp up a bit without falling apart. Tons of punch! I run drives into the normal channel and they really sound great with the amp/speaker combo. Your Greenback meets Jenson is pretty much spot on.

    The Cream is a great speaker for so many things and a DR as well. Would definitely be a little darker than the Gold and that's a good thing with these amps.
     
  12. throbert

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    I'm a big fan of the Alessandro SC64 in a BFDR. However, I thought the Celestion Alnico Cream sounded great in a handwired burgundy paisley tolex DR I played through at a local store a couple of years ago. I may try one in one of my Deluxes just for a different tonality for a while. I've never gigged with one so YMMV. There are many good choices for a DR. The only one I didn't like was the original Oxford the BFs came with.
     
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    I have a Celestion 10-inch gold in my Princeton and an A-type in my DRRI.

    Celestion speakers in blackface Fenders can work. Don't let the naysayers nay say you.
     
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    Forgot to add, after trying a lot of speakers.. the ET65 turned out to be my most fave ceramic. I couldn't be bothered with "american tones" based speakers anymore, they're bland/boring for 6V6 amps imo. These days, the ET65 stays in my Z-Cab for my 5 watts head, while the 90w Alnico Cream stays in my 15 watts combo. Yeah.. they work amazingly well with those low powered amps, giving them extra balls, body and headroom.
     
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    I use the ceramic creamback G12/65 it’s very good mostly in high powered Marshall’s. They have a very smooth top end darkish midrange and deeper than most in the bass. I rebuilt a Bassman 10 like a super reverb, and it sounded very good. I still find the Italian Jensen C12N in my fenders a very nice match. They seem to get better as they age and played. For years I stayed away from them based on a lot of reviews. But a lot of very experienced player/techs kept saying they are very good. I now agree. I have bought 5 over the last few months to install in several Fender’s and so far they all turned out great.
     
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    I have a really old Silver Bell in my SFDR and it rolls off the super high end and tightens up the low end. A nice match for loud volumes.
     
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    Absolutely, I have a Scumback M75 65 watt in my DR, a Celestion type, sounds great. With the Power Station it is easy to switch speakers around; I often plug into a cab with two vintage Greenbacks, sounds great, today i was playing the DR through a '60's Vox blue, sounds totallyphenomenal, best speaker ever, but slightly underpowered for a DR so have to watch the volume- great for recording.

    Maybe I just like Brit flavored speakers. BTW still sounds like a DR through all of them.
     
  18. Tommy_G

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    Anyone try a Scumnico?... If the Gold is too bright I think a Scumnico would in theory be the ticket up to at least modest gain.
     
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    DR with a Cream Alnico is a great sounding rig.
     
  20. davidespinosa

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    @Echoes22

    The C Rex is super bassy — no top end.
    You are in for a surprise.

    The Alnico Cream isnt that far off a C12Q.
    But I like both those speakers.
    Scumback M75 and Celestion A-type are also excellent picks.

    But consider clipping the bright cap in that Deluxe, or playing through the Normal channel, which doesn’t have a bright cap.
     
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