Celestion G12-65...old ones vs. reissue

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  1. The Rocket

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    Hi,
    has anyone compared the old G12-65's against the new heritage reissues?
    What's the difference in sound?
     
  2. jezzzz2003

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    I dont know the answer to your question but gimme the new ones any day!
    who wants a flapped out speaker?...
     
  3. Dr. Tweedbucket

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    yep. I have 3 old ones and they sound like crap. The 4th was reconed and it sounds nice. I did this in a mini speaker shootout. :Devil
     
  4. dbeeman

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    I have heard there were multiple versions of the old ones - some sounded good and some not so much. The new ones sound very good to my ears. If they just weren't sou much $$$ ... and drop those goofy solder only terminals!
     
  5. SgtThump

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    Are you being sarcastic or do people now prefer new speakers over used speakers? lol... It's amazing how fast the "fad" changes with guitar players.
     
  6. Scumback Speakers

    Scumback Speakers Gold Supporting Member

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    Well, I'd guess an old flapping speaker isn't anyone's "holy grail" of tone, Sgt. ;)
     
  7. MrJacko03

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    Maybe it's the difference between 'broken in' speakers and old flapping speakers :D
     
  8. SgtThump

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    He he... Sorry, I misunderstood. :)
     
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    I believe there are two versions of the old ones: the bass version has 444 cones, the leads have 1777s. Apparently, the latter are the desirable ones.
    Many people seem to hate the 444, but having used an original JCM800 bass cab in the studio recently, I would disagree.
    I also have a 4x12 with the lead version, and I like it a lot.
     
  10. bosstone

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    I have had over a dozen of the Rola Celestion G12-65s with the 1777 cone and about an even number of 8 and 15 ohm ones. I haven't had a bad one yet but I won't buy one with a grayed out and dried out cone. I aways lightly tap on the cone to get an indication if it is dried out and brittle or too soft. Maybe I have been lucky but I haven't come across any "flapped out" ones. I think most of them would probably blow before they "flappped out" because they are fairly hardy speakers. As to which are better between the old and new versions, I have never owned the new versions because I almost never find the newer versions of guitar equipment to be as good as the original and I am totally happy with and feel lucky to have some nice old ones. That said, several people whose ears I trust, who have the new ones seem to like them very much so maybe they finally got it right.
     
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    I have 4 of the old ones and one of the new heritage speakers. I play them with various Marshall, Dr.Z, Matchless and Two Rock amps. I find the new speaker very good but stiffer sounding and less bass then the original. The originals sound warmer with mids that seem a little more scooped that the new one. I think the new one is a little tiny bit more efficient than the old ones too.
     
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    Hmmm... based on that I'm glad I have the new ones :cool:
     
  13. The Rocket

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    are the old G12-65s that bad?
     
  14. bosstone

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    Absolutely not! One in average condition is one of the best speakers you can get.
     

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