Ceriatone Overtone HRM clip

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  1. marinblues

    marinblues Member

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    (Updated) Yes, yes, yes!

    I am begining to get the tones I want!:)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KctQMml9JIo


    I have added a new clip with a Stratocaster and a Celestion Greenback. A lot less gain, a lot more polite:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZwD9z76Uf4


    and another clip with a humbucker guitar and a G12-65. I flipped a EH tube in V2:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yau-pzvnIGU


    The first clip with a lot (too much! :) ) gain is here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g71NO73cMAU&feature=email




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    I am clueless. Why is it called her royal majesty? What is the difference between this and the regular overtone? Sorry for the ignorance.
     
  3. marinblues

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    There are some circuit difference which I am not an expert on. The OD is smoother and thicker than before. The cleans are as buttery are before. :)

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    wedewer - her royal majesty is an equivalent to hot rubber monkey (HRM) - the dumble name for this circuit.

    I have to say marin, there sounds to be a spikey fizziness in there reminiscent of my pre-modded overtone. comes over most when more than one note is being played.

    cool playing.
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    I posted almost the same sentiment in member soundclips. The top end is way to spikey.... Maybe the stack needs adjustment.

     
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    To each their own, Scott...to each their own....

    The stack is staying where it is. ;)

    thanks.

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    Ok then! Clip sounded good, just not Dumbley to me. You sure you don't want to tweak a hair? Or maybe you did already?

     
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    What speakers did you use on that clip?
     
  9. marinblues

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    G12-65, but I am actually liking it a lot with my Greenback (I'll record a clip in near future).

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    Nice Marin!

    Scott, I'm not saying that Marin's clip here sounds super-dumbley, or much like Robben's tone, but I will say that Robben's current Dumble tone has a lot more high-end content than your typical clips. Your stuff is thicker and darker. (Actually, I'm surprised your stuff isn't brighter when you're playing that Baker RF guitar -- that's a bright guitar).

    When I set my amp up the way I like it best -- which is relatively dark, like yours -- then compare it to a recorded RF track, I find I have to turn the treble and presence up to get close to RF's actual tone.
     
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    i agree it's got some top end fizzyness going on. I bet if you ran it through an ev it'd be very harsh. You might want to tame that down a little bit.
     
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    Hey Marin, I just looked at the pics of that amp on the Ceriatone site. What does the extra switch on the back do? And what does the extra knob on the back do? Apparently it's labeled "OD."

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    PRECISELY! I saw Robben play 6 weeks ago and I was standing in front of the speakers and thinking about this. There is so much treble in there.

    I don't want to belittle his 90's stuff but I love his current "raw" tone.


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    LOL, Jack,

    we've been here before haven't we?

    I'm not really into those muffled, rolled-off-tone-knob tones, which you and Scott like :D

    I've played the amp with the Greenback and it actually sounds better than the G12-65, more articulate and yes, trebly.

    I would agree in saying that this clip has a LOT of gain, so you might find some harmonics unpleasant. My playing style is quite agressive with the pick too.

    I really pushed those external "tweak controls" to the max to see how well it could distort at room volume.

    I'll post some lower gain clips and you'll hear how well tweaked this version is out of the box.


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    "OD" is the OD trimmer.

    The switch near to it is a "Feedback resistor switch" (copying what Nik said).

    Also, the bright cap can be included/excluded with a push/pull know (Volume control).

    I also have the half-power switch.

    It's like a Swiss-knife! :)


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    The feedback switch I'll bet is for the Local Negative Feedback on V1b.
    Traditionally it is 22M or 44M ohm resistor(s) and a .05uf cap in series between the plate and grid of V1b.
    Supposedly it makes the tone a lot more "raw" without the cap/resistor in circuit.
    So that switch puts it in or out of circuit.
     
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    To quote Nik: "Feedback res switch to select 4K7, no resistor, and 8K2".

    Yes, it makes the amp a lot more "raw" like on the clip.


    Marin

     
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    can the hrm circuit be switched off?
     
  20. John Coloccia

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    I like it. I like it a lot. Great vibe you have going there. I agree with you that I much prefer it a little raw, just like you have it. Nice amp, and nice playing.
     

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