Changes for "Sun Goddess" by EW&F/Ramsey Lewis?

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  1. SouthernShred

    SouthernShred Silver Supporting Member

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    Anyone have a chart for this song?

    Thanks!
    Shannon
     
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    Unfortunately, I do not.. but I love to hear someone's wood shedding or learning to play tunes in that vain.... just love those kind of tunes :AOK
     
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    Thanks for the kind comment! I've recently started playing with an amazing bassist, maybe my musical soul mate...he used to jam with Parliament and George Clinton regularly and we're doing stuff from Jeff Golub & Avenue Blue, Ramsey Lewis, Al Green, Weather Report, Derek Trucks, plus originals...I'm motivated to really work for the first time in a long time...I love this kind of music
     
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    intro/vamp E11 to D11

    A section

    Ama7 F#mi7 G#mi7 B 11 C11

    Ebmi7b5 Ab7 Dbmi7 Gb7

    Bmi7 F#mi7 1st ending E11 ( 2bars)

    2nd ending Bmi 7 F#mi7 Bmi7 F#mi7 E11 to solos over vamp

    Great tune to jam on!
     
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    SouthernShred Silver Supporting Member

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    What's the fingering for these 11th chords?
     
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    www.chordbook.com is good place to look...shows primary fingering and inversions for a lot of chords...doesn't cover everything, but it's a quick guide...
     
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    I use

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    for E11, which technically is a E9sus4 I guess. More interesting is the strumming hand pattern: I believe Al Mc kay does not strum constant 16th notes as is customary in funk. Instead he strums

    up-down up-down up-down up-down down

    Very stiff and uncomfortable to cop, but IMO it's the only way to achieve the sharpness and phrasing of the riff. Al Mc Kay has a killer pocket!
     
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    SouthernShred Silver Supporting Member

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    I thought Johnny Graham played that particular guitar part?
     
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    D'oh!

    I saw the Al McKay All-stars earlier this year and am still under the spell...but you are correct, Sir.
     
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    Great tune. Consider yourself lucky. I've always wanted to play that (outside of the house) but I couldn't get the band on board. Enjoy!
     
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    Al McKay... very cool!!
    Glad to see his name mentioned here...
    3 Bigthumbs up! :AOK :AOK :AOK
     
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    I found this thread via Google when looking for the changes to Sun Goddess. I really appreciate them, saved me time.

    However, upon close listening, I found one chord that's actually different. There is a Gm6 instead of a Gb7. I hear the upper notes of the guitar as Bb, D, E and G, making a Gm6. The bass also plays G.

    So this part
    becomes
    Ebmi7b5 Ab7 Dbmi7 Gm6

    I just really hear that G there in the recording. (You could also play F#7+5b9 and get the G that way.)

    Thanks again!
     
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    Maurice White used to be Ramsey Lewis' drummer back in the 60s.
     
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    I remember seeing and 8X10 shot of Maurice "drummer for Ramsey Lewis" on the wall of Bill Crowden's drum shop in downtown Chicago, 30 years ago.
     
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    The EW&F uses
    9
    7
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    with a little motion on the first string that would be difficult to notate this way.
     

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