Charlie Christian pickup near the bridge, bad idea?

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  1. cyberprimate

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    I know Gibson lap steel guitars had one in the 1930's, but for a standard guitar, has anyone tried it?
     
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    I think it would sound great!
     
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    Here is a “Tim Lerch” modded Tele with Lollar Charlie Christian’s in the neck, middle and the bridge- all sounds wonderful in those position (this layout is for 7 combinations). Will give you an idea of the bridge....

     
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    I used to own a custom Don Grosh ElectraJet with 3 Lollar Charlie Christian pickups. It sounded PHENOMENAL in all positions, including the bridge.
     
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    It sounds great. Very clear and bell like. You lose some Tele edge but my Nocaster has a treble bleed and if I roll the volume back it brightens up a bit. I really need to install 500K pots. Lollar has told me it will make a difference.

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  6. Ron Kirn

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    one of my favorite pickups.. in either position..

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    Yep, I immediately thought of Tim.

    He gets quite a few very usable tones out of his Lollar CC pickup combination.
     
  8. JukeJointJunkie

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    That is BAD-ASS. Thanks for posting.
     
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    I have a Lollar Charlie Christian in the bridge and neck of one of my telecasters. The bridge pickup is great. Very even across low, mids and highs. Responds well clean and with some gain. I'm really happy with both CCs overall.
     
  10. cyberprimate

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    I didn't mention it was for a Gibson Melody Maker (1965 with missing pickups), anyway I'll probably make the jump.

    I can imagine that a CC pickup near the bridge has a certain coherence, maybe more than near the neck in fact. When I look at Lollar's tone chart for his Charlie Christian pickup, it's all oriented towards low end and midrange. Although the highs go further high than a P90, their volume is lower. The bridge position on any guitar is less bassy with more treble than the neck position… The original CC pickup was designed for lap steel guitars, so close to the bridge.

    I wonder what those teeth are for here.

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  11. Jon Silberman

    Jon Silberman 10Q Jerry & Dickey Silver Supporting Member

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    Unfair demo! That guy would be badass on anything. :D
     
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    I had Lollar Charlie Christian pickups installed on this Fender Telecaster and it is really amazing. I love all the pickup positions.

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    A few clips to maybe help...

    Clean neck with some reverb:


    vs.

    Bridge with OD and reverb:
     
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    I don't see why a CC pickup could not be mounted upside down with the magnets pointing upward if you like the sound of the P90 ES-150s with the bridge pickup.
     
  15. Gig Young

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    Cool vid!
    Great sounds
     
  16. jackaroo

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    Love that thunk under the note that these pickups deliver.

    Silly tech question...as a hum hater, could the Ilitch backplate system help with the hum?
     
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    I don't notice much hum with mine - they are pretty quiet. Not as quiet as HBs, but quieter than other single coil and P90 PUs I have. No shielding or special tricks, just standard tele wiring and grounding. Others may have different results.
     
  18. jackaroo

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    @B Vance
    That wasn’t my findings when I owned a Gibson es whatever from the 30s with that pickup.

    sounded like heaven but it was buzzy AF
     
  19. stevieboy

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    You must be talking about the original CC pickup with the extended magnets, the real thing as opposed to the Lollars and others which, however good, are simulations. Interesting, I don't think I've ever seen one or a pic of one like that, but like you I don't see why not. There wouldn't be room for one in both the neck and the bridge positions though.

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