Great live band! I've seen them several times and they always killed live! Robin Zander is a great singer IMO! There was a bit of a punk rock ethos while maybe not musically, the image thing with Rick and Bun. E being throw backs and Robin and Tom being sort of modern rock looking (at that time) was kind of contrarian and Rick definitely evoked a smart-assed punk attitude on stage! I burnt myself out on the Budokan and Dream Police tunes but heard Downed the other day and thought it still sounded great to my ears!