Chicago Bulls Fire Winningest NBA Coach in Last 5 Years

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  1. DonW

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    Met Thibs a handful of times...really great guy. Same goes for Ron Adams who was their assistant coach until he was fired a couple years ago.
     
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    Yeah, they were never gonna win it all with him.
     
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    Exactly. Winningest regular season coach means nothing. Titles is all that matters. And this team will never win the East with Tibs. Now he goes to New Orleans.
     
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    They were doing so well before he got there? What could've been if Rose wasn't hurt so much. Surprised they got as far as they did into the playoffs mainly without Rose or a real superstar on those teams. Had to result to physical play and defense for the most part.

    Not sure who would be a good replacement at this point. Mark Jackson/Mike Malone or VanGundy?
     
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    Yep. Now winning isn't even enough. You have to "win it all". What a joke. Typical of everything that is wrong with sports. And sports fans.

    It doesn't even matter how you do it, as long as you "win it all". Good luck with that. I wonder who "we'll" hire next?:rolleyes:
     
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    Cavaliers just showed them the real problem, inconsistent talent on the court.
     
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    I watched the Bulls all season long. They were very inconsistent. I don't think it was a coaching problem. Some of these guys couldn't hit the broad side of a barn on a night-to-night basis.
     
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    same as John Fox and Harbaugh
     
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    Might be a good fit for Knicks.
     
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    and Mark Jackson.
     
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    There never going to win it all with their current roster. I thought he did a pretty good job the last 5 years. I can't think of another coach in the NBA who has done so well recently with the franchise player always hurt. I guess people can point to Thibs for all the injuries. I'm not sure who they will get that will do a better job and if Rose is hurt it won't even matter.
     
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    The winningest coach in the last five years is Erik Spoelstra, with two. Three others are tied for second, with one each. Everyone else, none.

    I have mixed feelings about this. But in any field, employers are going to take many factors into account, not simply someone's numbers or track record.

    I was similarly surprised and against the firing of Mark Jackson. He had done very well, better than any Golden State coach in a long time. But now the Warriors are going to the finals. It's hard to argue with those results, whether or not results are the only criteria. Maybe they would also be there with Mark Jackson. We'll never know, even if Jackson gets another head coaching job and wins the title somewhere.

    Sports is by nature competitive. I don't have a problem with a team setting winning the championship as it's goal, and sooner or later not accepting anything less. The Bulls have been in contention long enough, and as a team moves up in contention, the bar gets raised.

    I'm not however saying I specifically agree with the firing of Thibodeau, just that I don't necessarily agree that he has done well enough that it's a mistake to let him go just based on his won/lost record.
     
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    When it comes to regular season, two coaches have a higher winning percentage than Thibs-
    Steve Kerr — .793
    Gregg Popovich — .683


    It's easy to be emotional about Thibs being let go when fans watched him do so much with so little at times as Bulls head coach. Knowing Bulls head coach history since Phil Jackson motivates fans to aggressively dislike this move. I can't say that it's a bad move yet although I hate it right now. The chatter that has Fred Hoiberg coming in isn't that promising considering he's an unproven commodity in NBA circles. He'll go somewhere else and likely win it all. Sure, he's a taskmaster that's out of place in a players league where a fat paycheck and setting the rules is generally accepted but that's what it is. The Bulls were fourth in the league in offense so it wasn't emphasis on defense that did him in. Certainly not the end of an era in the sense that it didn't expire with a championship in its history. I'd like to have seen more from Doug McDermott for one so maybe that's something to look forward to next season.
     
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    Rubbed everyone the wrong way. The clock is ticking, time for a change
     
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    Well, I think comparing the Bulls moving upward to how Golden State did it this year after Mark Jackson is problematic since the Bulls simply do not have the quality of players GS has, nor a real superstar (Rose can be but his health is an issue every year and can't be depended upon for a whole season, plus is very up-and-down every game that he plays in).
     
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    I'd get burned out just having to listen to hoarse yelling all the time.
     
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    Except that he ran his players into the ground, and likely took years off the careers of Noah and Rose with his refusal to manage their minutes. His style wears his teams down to nothing by the time the playoffs come around. He can win all the regular season games he wants, but he's not getting anyone to the championship with the way he manages his teams and his players' minutes and injuries.
     
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    Paxson said at today's presser that if the Bulls were still playing, i.e. still in the running for a championship, they "wouldn't be having this conversation" about firing Thibs.

    Everything you mentioned that the firing is about contributes to an inability to win a title. So, it is about failing to win a championship.
     

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