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Cioks Adam (POUL requested a vote, page 3!)

chrisross

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Didn't see a thread on this yet..

I like it and I'm excited that companies are starting to build products for small boards. For guys with huge boards, there are plenty of options, but the pickins get slim when it comes to smaller options (especially ones that legitimately fit on the PT-mini and nano).



photo creds to jnepo1


Having said all that, I'm not a huge fan of the power layout on the product, I would much prefer it be:

9v 100mA
9v 100mA
9/12v 250 mA
9/12v 250 mA

OR

9v 100mA
9v 100mA
9v 100mA
9/12 400mA


Preferably the latter: that way no matter what delay (DD20, Timeline, El Cap, Nova, Timefactor, etc) you decide to put on your mini board, power will be covered and the other taps can be used to power your regular pedals (tuner, OD, reverb, etc). I'd buy that in a heartbeat.
 
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lefort_1

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pray tell, what IS the power distribution from yon mini-pizza-box?
 

jnepo1

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At 250mA, that is actually enough to power everything in your list except for the Eventide. I've seen the Timeline powered thru a PP2+ (250mA) and a Boss DD20 only requires 180mA. As for the TC Electronic Nova Delay, that can be powered at 250mA as well. The Nova Delay states 300mA, but that is actually the wallwarts power rating, not what the Nova needs. With those delays being that big, you won't see many of them on a Nano. If anything, you can still use a current doubler if need be. I would rather see a 9/18V tap(s) on the ADAM, something that Poul Cioks has cleverly done on the Schizophrenic (2 taps).
 

chrisross

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At 250mA, that is actually enough to power everything in your list except for the Eventide. I've seen the Timeline powered thru a PP2+ (250mA) and a Boss DD20 only requires 180mA. As for the TC Electronic Nova Delay, that can be powered at 250mA as well. The Nova Delay states 300mA, but that is actually the wallwarts power rating, not what the Nova needs. With those delays being that big, you won't see many of them on a Nano. If anything, you can still use a current doubler if need be. I would rather see a 9/18V tap(s) on the ADAM, something that Poul Cioks has cleverly done on the Schizophrenic (2 taps).

I think the Timeline can only be powered with 5/6 is because the two outlets share 500mA, but I might be wrong there. The Nova would probably do okay with 250, but it's a 12v pedal (it can run on 9 without harm, but it degrades the repeats). So technically there's no way to run the nova delay off of this, which is a great delay option for a nano or mini. That's why I suggested that they at least flip the mAs so that the 9/12v taps get the higher current.


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mc_deli

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I'll be getting this. I am interested if there will be a mounting kit eg brackets and self tapping screws?

(I have a Ciokolate and a Big John - every confidence in Cioks, great gear and customer service)
 

jnepo1

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I think the Timeline can only be powered with 5/6 is because the two outlets share 500mA, but I might be wrong there. The Nova would probably do okay with 250, but it's a 12v pedal (it can run on 9 without harm, but it degrades the repeats). So technically there's no way to run the nova delay off of this, which is a great delay option for a nano or mini. That's why I suggested that they at least flip the mAs so that the 9/12v taps get the higher current.


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Chris, I believe taps 5/6 on the PP2+ are isolated like the entire PP2+, they do not share 500mA. I understand your point with regards to the Nova and agree that a 9/12V option on the high mA section(s) would have been ideal.
 

Holzar1988

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I wonder if I could squeeze one in next to my BBE Supacharger on a PT-Jr. For that matter, I suppose I could just park it under a riser on top of my board.

Plus, well, my name is Adam, so I should get one just on principle alone.
 

thiscalltoarms

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Timeline uses more than 250ma if you are controlling it via midi, which can cause it to glitch a bit from not having enough power. If you aren't using midi 250ma will be fine for the Timeline.
 

XiXora

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My issue is more with the power cables. I need some longer ones.
Are there good quality components available to build our own?
 

jnepo1

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even a small board should have 5-6 outputs though :(

is this really that much smaller than an iso5?
Yes, it fits between the rails of the Nano. I think that's why there are only 4 taps. It may be a tad smaller than the Volto. Brian Spencer of Pedalshark actually took the picture at NAMM and sent me the pic.

Another nice feature of the ADAM, it is part of the Cioks LINKS PSU line, so it's a quick connect to any of the other Ciokss LINKS PSU wit the proper IEC adapter. Really a cool feature for people with expanding and reducing pedalboards.
 

thiscalltoarms

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I am in for this... Where can I find a current doubler cable with the Cioks style jacks?
 

mcnabbanov

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Yes, it fits between the rails of the Nano. I think that's why there are only 4 taps. It may be a tad smaller than the Volto. Brian Spencer of Pedalshark actually took the picture at NAMM and sent me the pic.
you've got a pic of it on a pedaltrain? care to post :)
 

cubistguitar

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No picture on the pedaltrain, but another member posted a picture of the print advertising and the nano and mini pedaltrains are mentioned. The outlet taps are at one end of the rectangle making it manageable under the nano and mini. The capacity is fine for me. Four taps is all I need for my nano (3 actually as I run my fuzz on the battery). If you need more access to power, dirt boxes could be chained together. Keeley also makes a neat small box that splits one 9v into 2 isolated 9v. As long as the ratings are met, its all good. I don't use much digital, usually just delay and verb so this product is a great addition for me. I love my nano and want the power as stable there as on my larger boards.
 






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