Discussion in 'Luthier's Guitar & Bass Technical Discussion' started by Husky, Jun 30, 2011.
It's also not a issue only affecting the USA.
Seems to me the issue affects people who need to transport their tools in order to practice the musical trade.
I want to get in here for a question, since I'm currently fairly clueless on the whole CITES thing.
I recently got a neck that's all rosewood. I was considering buying a body to put it on that's also all rosewood...but I notice the guy who made the body is in Sao Paolo and I'm in Texas.
Is this now illegal?
Take with a grain of salt - this is just one person's experience - but I recently bought a guitar (Mayones) while traveling in London and carried it back with me on the plane (Virgin Atlantic) to the US. No one at any point, including when I was doing my VAT refund paperwork at Heathrow, or at customs in the US, asked about the guitar at all.
Not surprised, but also would not be surprised to have some customs person suddenly decide to check, and even hold a guitar that had no CITES wood in it. Appears they can assume you are guilty until proven innocent
If a person has Brazilian rosewood that's been in the US since before the Lacey act was enacted, can they use the lumber to make instruments? Say I find an antique made from rosewood that was built in the 1800's. Can I use the reclaimed lumber from it?
Sure, I don't think there is any restriction on using the wood (as far as I can tell) but the kicker is transporting it across your border. Brazilian Rosewood is now in the category of ivory and tortoise shell as far as movement across borders.
I wish the laws were more clearly defined. There is so much misinformation out there as to the legality of using Brazilian rosewood. I had a person confront me on Facebook about selling a piece of Brazilian. He said "I'm sure you are familiar with the new laws on Brozilian rosewood!" I didn't respond, but I figured I shouldn't take legal council who thinks the rosewood comes from Brozil.
Yep, mere possession of Brozilian Rosewood warrants the automatic death penalty.
If you look back through the links provided in this thread you should be able to find, if not solid answers, at least the framework for restricting the trade of Brazilian Rosewood. I don't travel with my custom acoustic guitar that has B/R back and sides, but I've taken my old '70s El Degas that has B/R fingerboard and bridge through US customs and so far no consequences.
Ha! El Degas. There's a name you don't hear often. They had some pretty cool guitars. I love 70's & 80's mij brands. Especially Daion and Yamaki. I've always wondered if there was an El Degas/Yamaki connection.
I'm not sure if there is a connection - there is a B&J mark on the inside sticker, so wherever they were made it was a contract build. Still sounds great, but the fretboard is pretty road worn even with all the sanding and fretwork I did to it.
Apologies if redundant.
CITES began moves at Dec meeting in Geneva to loosen restrictions on cross-border movement of musical instruments containing rosewood, but certainty may await the next meeting in 2019 ...