"Come hell or high water"

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  1. RedneckDerek

    RedneckDerek Member

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    Is this strictly a Southern thing? I have never heard anyone here say this...
     
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    "Come forrest fire or high tide" might be more relatable :hide
     
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    ShredSquatch Conspiracy Experience Director & Stunt Guitarist Supporting Member

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    Probably, another good one is "Lord willin and the creek don't rise"

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  4. RedneckDerek

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    I was born in 1950, in Oakland, California.
    That was where the Raiders played. You might recall, that at one time the Raiders were a professional football team.
    I remember hearing this phrase since the dawn of my time on this planet.
     
  6. John Hurtt

    John Hurtt Silver Supporting Member

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    Do we not remember the immortal Poison tune by that name? :D
     
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    Good call!!
     
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    I went to school with a Helen Highwater.
     
  10. Bussman

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    No, but I remember the Allman Brothers Band Hell and High Water.
     
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    I am from the South, but believe that little ditty to be more of a Americanism, a coloqialism, in our version of English. It may not be spoken in every corner of the country, but I don't believe it's specific to the South. Now, if you were to ask about "Butter my butt and call me a biscuit", you'd be onto something.
     
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  12. B Money

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    I think of that say as being more Western than Southern.
     
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    Straight out of Georgia, circa 1798.
     
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    aynirar27 All You Need Is Rock and Roll Gold Supporting Member

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    It made its way to Australia

     
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    Number 1 song for my friend, Tony, back in 1986. Maybe it is southern.....Alex Harvey, the songwriter, is from out near Memphis, TN.


     
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    I heard “Come hell or high water” more when I lived in the north than I hear it down here.

    But when I really want to impress someone, I use a quote from Foghorn Leghorn! ;)
     
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    No... not an overused cliche at all!

     
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    Don't know much about the saying, but I loved the movie.

     
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    I always thought it was an Oklahoma saying...
     
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    There is a couple of different takes on this:

    Statements of the form "God/Lord willing and (some other condition being met)" are ancient extensions of simple acceptance of God's will in phrases like God Willing and Lord Willing. "Creek" originated as a reference to creeks flooding and preventing travel, but is sometimes re-interpreted as a reference to the Creek Indian tribe.

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    Despite what M-W says, the remark was first said by Benjamin Hawkins, q.v., and the phrase should be correctly written as 'God willing and the Creek don't rise'. Hawkins, college-educated and a well-written man would never have made a grammatical error, so the capitalization of Creek is the only way the phrase could make sense. He wrote it in response to a request from the President to return to our Nation's Capital and the reference is not to a creek, but The Creek Indian Nation. If the Creek "rose", Hawkins would have to be present to quell the rebellion. I believe that the phrase is somewhere in his preserved writings.



    Let the seal clubbings begin...
     
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