I have a Bogner 4x12 w/ v30s and a Mesa traditional 4x12 (not oversized) w/ v30s. I love both cabs. Here are few of my observations...
I'm considering picking up another Mesa cab primarily due to the fact that they are cheaper and I have the option of running multiple amps into each cab (stereo capabilities). The difference in tone is negligible for me. If you play out often, keep in mind the Mesa may hold up better as it has corner protection which the Bogner does not have. Both are built like a brick @#$#house though.
- Mesa Cab is 8 ohms mono / 4 ohms stereo
- Bogner Cab is 16 ohms mono only
- With my Ecstacy, I prefer the Bogner cab as it has a more open, natural character
- With my Egnater M4 / VHT 2/50/2, I prefer the Mesa cabs
- Both cabs have great, tight bottom end. Note: The oversized mesa cabs tend to be more bottom heavy and looser sounding than the smaller traditional cab.
The Bogner Cab rules.
And why not use the cab the cab that was built for the XTC? Your amp is craving for a black and tan...I say Bog all the way.
Right now I have a Bogner OS 2x12 (Closed), MESA Recto 2x12, and a THD 2x12 all side by side with my EL-34 Shiva head. All 3 cabs have V30's in them. I tried these tests with a Hamer Studio and a Tele - here's the observations.
MESA Recto 2x12 - Deep, punchy, and big. Sounds like a 4x12 if you close your eyes. Fairly neutral tonal response - just bigger.
Bogner OS 2x12 Closed - Woody and rounded with a fair amount of top end sizzle. It's like turning the presence knob up by 3-4. Not a ton of bottom, but not lacking either.
THD 2x12 - Who turned up the midrange? Kinda like mounting speakers in a cardboard box. Very compressed - not much top and not much bottom.
The veridct? MESA 2x12!!! If I had to rate them 1-10, it would be: MESA 9, Bogner 7, and THD 4. I used to really really like the THD 2x12 - until I tried it with this amp. It's just so squashed and middy. FWIW, it's also the smallest cab of the three. The Bogner OS - I had high hopes for. It's not a bad cab by any stretch, i just don't really like the high end voicing. To me it's very very bright and not as big sounding as I was hoping for. Maybe I should try the Shiva sized cab? The Mesa is hands down the winner for me. It just sounds so f#$%ing big compared to the other two. It's the one cab that makes me forget I'm not playing thru a 4x12. Also it's the only cab that doesn't make me think about the cab - i.e. not distracting, just pleasing.
Hope this helps,
Wow, that is really interesting, thank you.
I had heard the Bogner cabs have a smoother top end than the Mesas, but your side by side tests blow that theory away.Thanks for that.