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Compare: Timmy vs. NOC3 Rock Candy

Discussion in 'Effects, Pedals, Strings & Things' started by Staticbuster, May 19, 2011.

  1. Staticbuster

    Staticbuster Member

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    So the recent "why is the timmy so great" thread got me wondering...how similar is the NOC3 Rock Candy Overdrive to the Timmy?

    I don't know jack about circuits, but I do know that the things people praise the Timmy for are the same things I love about my RCO..transparent, low to medium gain, more of your "natural" amp tone, etc.

    Maybe Paul C and Nick could chime in on this, but I also would like to hear the opinions of people who've played both.
     
  2. vesper

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    I own both and use both on my board. I find the Timmy a bit more transparent than the Rock Candy and it has a little bit more gain available. The RC cleans up more with just your pick attack and seems to be a little more warmer and is a tad smoother than the Timmy. Stack the RC into the Timmy and you get overdrive heaven.
     
  3. Staticbuster

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    ^Cool! Thanks for the reply, that gives a really good jumping-off point. I've always wondered if I'd like to have a Timmy. It sounds like they work really nice with Voxes, which is what I use. I'm not sure if I need both really. I use the Rock Candy to get a little more out of the amp, which I run with just a touch of hair if I really dig in. For leads I use an FD2 to get a compressed, sustaining tone. With the RCO and the Timmy stacked, can they get into that sort of TS territory, or is the combo lacking in compression?
     
  4. tjs

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    I own both. The Timmy doesn't do anything for me - I find it muddy and brittle sounding. I love the idea behind the EQ, but unfortunately even when I run the pedal clean it still makes things muddy compared to the bypassed tone.

    The Rock Candy, on the other hand, is my favorite low-mid gain drive. Wonderfully responsive, natural, and amp-like, excellent clean-up with both pick dynamics and volume knob adjustments. I use it for everything from just a little hair to a moderate crunch. For me, the Rock Candy was everything I had hoped to get from the Timmy.

    I too would be interested in hearing what people are stacking with the Rock Candy. It takes fuzzes superbly (I've used half a dozen different fuzzes with it and they all sound great), but I'd love to find a good boost/OD to push it to a heavier tone without going all the way into fuzz territory.
     
  5. Dipintoplayer

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    What type amp do you use? The only people i have ever heard complain about a Timmy being muddy have been using Solid State amps or or amps like the Vox Valvetronix series..
    The only negative i have found with the Timmy for a low gain pedal it does not push pedals well..With this said it sounds great when being pushed..
     
  6. tjs

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    And actually what I'd really love is for Nick to make a higher gain version of the Rock Candy. Apply the same concepts that he used for the Rock Candy, but have enough gain to handle (classic) hard rock. THAT would be a great partner for the Rock Candy.
     
  7. tjs

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    Mostly a couple of low power Bassman/JTM-45 clones. I've also tried it with a few different Fenders (ranging from a Princeton Reverb to a Twin) and an AC-15. Trust me, it's not the amps.
     
  8. Staticbuster

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    Tjs, have you tried the NOC3 Firefly? Its a little different from the RCO, but perhaps stacking the two could get the gain up there. The Firefly is discontinued, but they pop up on ebay. Its was a pretty neat pedal too, on of the higher gain NOC3 pedals I've played.
     
  9. tomuchroc41gtr

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    The Rock Candy is one of the most underrated overdrive pedals I've had the pleasure of playing. I can't compare it to the Timmy, but on it's own merrit it's a fantastic pedal. It has a great EQ and the switch is also one of the most useful filters I've seen on an overdrive. On most drives, there's one position that really works for you but I was constantly changing the setting trying to decide what mode I liked better. I'm glad to finally see the Rock Candy getting a little love!
     
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    Any decent clean boost will do the trick. Something with some eq control or a variable treble boost would probably be ideal as it would allow you to reduce the bass going in to the Rock Candy to help keep things tight if you want a lot of gain. Also keep in mind that if you use a dirty boost then you wont be able to clean up your signal with the volume knob as much. The Rock Candy can take a lot of volume at the input.
     
  11. tjs

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    Thanks for the advice. The one clean boost I tried that surprisingly didn't work very well (surprising because it sounds amazing with everything else I've used it with) is a Klone clone. I don't know if it's an issue with the Klone's buffer not playing well with the RC or if Klone's midrange hump just works better running into a more saturated pedal.

    Wonder if a Rat or Dist+ on a lower gain setting might do the trick. That might just give me the growl I'm looking for.
     
  12. Staticbuster

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    Thanks for chiming in Nick! I sometimes stack my FD2 into the RCO, but hadn't thought about really slamming the front end. I'll have to try it with my MXR/CAE boost, that thing can give one helluva boost, so it should be interesting!

    Thanks for one great pedal, plus the 'bold as love' graphic is awesome!
     
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    I am resurrecting this thread since I have a Rock Candy on the way. I plan on using it as my main crunchy rhythm tone. For a heavier crunch I am going to hit it with a Red Llama or WIIO.

    Using a Tele and Goodsell super 17
     
  14. tjs

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    You'll love it - the Rock Candy LOVES tele bridge pickups.
     
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    Timmy has more volume, gain, and control. Just overall a much better pedal having owned both
     
  16. Jimmydeez

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    I'm not 100% loving it so far. I need to tweak a little more. Not enought gain and a little shrill sounding so far. I am not noticing a huge difference with the switch?

    Anyone have some settings I should try?
     
  17. tdk8709

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    To be honest, I couldn't really find that many similarities between the two. The Rock Candy had a distinct coloration to it, more high end similar to a BB, the Timmy is just more of what your guitar sounds like.
     

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