Comparisson: Avatar 2x12 vs Bogner oversized 2x12

Could try a detuned 1x12 I find they disperse well, but they do dramatically increase low end.

 

Not sure about the Avatar, but the baffle on the Bogner is slanted upwards, so it is pointing a bit more towards your head when playing with it.

I love mine.

 

Or you could invest in an 18" piece of 1X2 to tilt the cab up a bit. Wait, no, this is the GEAR page, can't have a low tech solution

 

Love my Bogner OS. I can hear myself much better on stage than my Mesa 2x12 Recto.

Just wish the casters were a little more heavy duty.....

 

I have both. 1st off the Govener loaded 2x12 Avatar open back cab is a great bang 4 ya buck cab as you allready know. The Bogner OS 2x12 with V-30's is the best I have played too date. Sounds bigger than most 4x12's I have played through. Funny thing is I didn't think I would like the V-30's but they sound great with my XTC. The casters are crap!!! But the tone is Heavenly

 

Hi Kingsxman,

Have you considered a Tone-Tools 2x12?
It may solve some or all of the issues.
I usually stay on the side lines but....well just check it out before you decide.

Best of Luck.


http://tone-tools.com/

 

If you're looking for a cab that has the dispersion and tone of the oversized Bogner 2x12 I think you should get that one. Since you have experience with that particular one, you're taking a lot more risk testing out another one(buying). Through all my gear aquistion, i've learned that if your heart is set on a particular piece of gear, your level of satisfaction will never be met until you get that specific piece. i know others may disagree, as they have gone off the whim and took a chance on a new piece of gear, but better safe than sorry.

I am particularly tired of hoping that this next piece of gear will be the end all. All i know now is when you find something that works with your setup, use that.

Hope this helps,

Eugene

 

Please excuse my ignorance here, but what is a "deTuned" 1x12 cab?
Also, what differance does a ported cab make to the overall sound? I have seen a 2x12 cab with 2 port hole things, does this give better disspersion and bass response?

Jon

 

hey man, it all depends what kind of rare rainforest tonewood you use, it makes all the difference in the world for the sound, ya know.....

 

From the Mad Sound Cabs website:
http://www.madsound.com/process.htm

"In his book, "DIY Speaker Cabinets for Musical Instrument Applications", Kevin O'Connor of London Power describes the ideal speaker cabinet. This design uses baffle diffusers and a detuned port to achieve the optimum balance of air, punch and spread. The result is phenomenal; a single cabinet that optimizes the sound of any speaker and maximizes the gear's performance for any guitarist's style. Whether it's metal, country, grunge, punk, classic rock, acoustic, Motown, jazz, or any combination thereof, the detuned cabinet delivers what no other design can, anywhere you put it; the richest amplified guitar sound on Earth."


From the Vintone website:
http://www.vintone.com/detuned.html

'DETUNED' SOLUTION
"What's the best cabinet design? Something between a large sealed cabinet and a slightly smaller but still large bass reflex design: a "detuned" cabinet with a single driver. This is essentially a cabinet built for two identical drivers with one driver left out and it's mounting hole left open. The port is not tuned to any specific frequency but instead allows a broad range of frequencies to be reversed through the shallow duct. Instead of having a brick-wall bass roll-off, the low end rolls off gradually but slightly slower than the raw driver. The large cabinet does not sound boxey so mids and highs sound three dimensional, unlike a sealed cabinet which sounds comparatively sterile. We sometimes call this an "open-front" design since it is like having an open-back cabinet where you bring along your own wall. The closed back gives consistent sound regardless of room placement; therefore the port cannot be on the back. The only caveat is one that applies to every other design: that elevating the cabinet seriously reduces low frequency output, so -always leave it on the floor."

From the book 'LONDON POWER DIY Speaker Cabinets for Musical Instrument Applications' by Kevin O'Connor:
http://www.londonpower.com/books/spkr.htm

 

Kingsxman,
The only drawback about the Bogner is the portabilty. It's big & bulkey and has poor quality caster's. But for the tone of this cab I will deal with these issues. As far as sound dispersion, my Bogner cuts very well . We have two guitars a Keyboard player and a very loud drumer. Hope this helps

 

Just so you are aware, Germino makes probably the best sounding 2x12 cab I have ever heard. I'd say that if you are considering the bogner, you should also consider the Germino....top shelf build quality, custom colors available and reasonably priced for what you get!!

www.germinoamps.com