Considering straplocks, are they worth it?

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  1. RiotOfWords

    RiotOfWords Member

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    Thinking about putting strap locks on my tele, but I had a really bad experience with these several years back on an ibanez, where they wouldn't stay in and stripped the wood, which was a somewhat easy fix of toothpicks and a little bit of Gorilla Glue, however I've got this nice new tele and don't want to mess anything up on it.

    Any recommendations as to which brands are superior to others as far as performance and security go? Dunlop, Schaller, Ernie Ball, Q-Parts? Those are about all my options as that's what my local store carries. What do you guys use and think work best? Had any failures or success stories for any of the brands I mentioned?
     
  2. jpage

    jpage Silver Supporting Member

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    Schaller is what I use, and what every pro I know uses. You hit the nail on the head with toothpicks and Gorilla Glue--I know Gibson, PRS and Fender all use bigger strap button screws.

    Put 'em on all your guitars and then buy yourself a fancy strap!
     
  3. RRfireblade

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    If you've ever lost a guitar off a strap or came close then yes ,they are worth it.

    Personally I use Shallers on everything I own I think altho I may have Dunlops on a few I don't play much. Don't really like the dunlops but not really worried about changing out the few here and there.

    The only concern with the Shallers is keeping the nut tight but you simply just get in the habit of checking them every so often. I've put a drop of locktite on them and haven't had to touch them in years but I still give them a check from time to time.
     
  4. RiotOfWords

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    I liked Schallers, it was just a nightmare what happened with my old Ibanez. As far as a fancy strap goes, I don't think I'll buy one, haha. I'm a really simple/plain kinda guy when it comes to straps. I really like the Ernie Ball nylon straps. Black, plain, goes good with anything.
     
  5. Payne

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    Yep, their worth it. I dont care for Dunlops and a few other brands but I have always used Schallers on all my electrics with no problems.
     
  6. Frater B

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    Get you a Fischer or Grolsch beer and if you don't drink
    maybe a friend will drink a couple for you? Then use the
    red rubber seal on the top. Or go to HDepot and buy
    some black rubber washers. Been using these for years.
    Just pop it on over the strap button after the strap is on.
    And No messing up your new Tele!

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Luke

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    I use the screws that came on the guitar not the ones that come with the Schallers, even if that means running a drill through the Schaller to allow the screw to pass through. Most of the time holding the Schaller with a pair of pliers and using a screw driver I can get the OEM screw through the Schaller. A dab of white glue in the guitar body hole never hurts.
     
  8. RiotOfWords

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    Still considering this method as well. I love Grolsch.

    As far as messing up my new tele goes, that's out the window now. I found 2 dings in the body where my arm rests about 10 minutes ago. Still really bummed about it because I've barely had the guitar for a month.:cry:

    I'm used to being really anal with my guitars and babying them, and I decided not to do that with this one, and look what it got me a month into owning it.
     
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    I've done this as well. Just place a washer under the screw over the strap. It does hold but I found the screw coming loose here and there, and well, you can't take the strap off very easily.
     
  10. Bleak

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    I use Dunlops.

    I had a REALLY bad experience with bad strap buttons. Still haunts me.
     
  11. EADGBE

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    Yes most definitely. I like Schallers the best. DiMarzio's system is very secure. But the buckle is unconformable to me. I've had Dunlops fail more than once.
     
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    Schallers on 3 guitars, Dunlops on my strat... Schallers are better. Worth it? Absolutely - I've had a Les Paul headstock hit the concrete. Never again.
     
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    i have used 'em in the past but not for a long time - i don't need 'em but i use straps with pretty stiff leather ends that stay put
     
  14. Wayne Alexander

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    When the strap came off my Lennon Revolution Casino in the middle of a set, dropping it onto a concrete floor, I put Schaller strap locks on all my guitars. That has never happened again. I echo what others have said above, make sure to glue the mounting screws into the holes in the guitar (with some hardwood toothpicks to tighten up the hole if necessary, use the oem screws when those are larger than the Schaller screws (On Gibsons and some other guitars, you have to put the OEM screws in a drill, and rotate them against a file to reduce the size of the head slightly to fit), and check the nut on the strap periodically.
     
  15. Rose Pickups

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    i use them on all of my guitars. Dunlops.
     
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    Strap locks are cheap insurance.

    Mine are Schallers.
     
  17. coot tone

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    I use the Grolsch gaskets, they work great. Good enough for Wilco!!!

    Of course, it's more fun to buy and drink the beer, but I ordered a big bag for very little dosh from a company that specializes in home brewing products.
     
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    When someone said that the metal on metal sounds from the Schallers drove him crazy, yeah, i get this, but this happens typically when you are sitting down. FWIW, when I stand up and play, I can't even play a gtr without strap locks on it and not think that it will hit the ground - so yes, they are on all my gtrs.
     
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    After dropping my first stringed instrument at a live gig in the early '90's, I've used Schaller straplocks religiously on every guitar I have owned. Long story short: with a bit of maintenance (tightening of screws and nuts) Schaller straplocks just work! In 15+ years I am yet to have one fail on me.
    Be aware of the Dunlops, though, they WILL fail. Dunlops came standard on a Blackmore Strat I bought in... hmmm... '97, I believe, and after just a few months the ball bearings started to give in - I was more than lucky that I didn't mess up my guitar then and there.

    The Grolsch washers will work well for all but the most intrepid Yngwie clone - yet, I still don't like them. The problem I have with the washer solution is absolutely NOT the beer (though I prefer Weiss Bier - Franziskaner, specifically), but the fact that they are not fitted on the guitar or strap and thus can be forgotten/omitted... seing as I can be a rather dim-witted bastard at times, I prefer to not give myself the chance of forgetting a washer on that one strap that got away...

    Cheers

    Eske
     
  20. The Golden Boy

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    I used to use Dunlops, but I've been strictly Schaller for the past 10 years or so now. After figuring out about using loc-tite (I use clear nail polish) on the threads- they're the best.

    I'm much older now than when I used to have issues with straps falling off, and I'm much less "animated" on stage. I think a tight fitting strap or rubber washers would provide "good enough" security now. However, now I like using the straplocks. I don't see the downside. It's easier to remove the strap now- rather than removing the washer and removing the strap. They don't wear the strap ends and it's secure.
     

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