First of all, if you're a hata, please ignore this. I'm interested in an actual discussion and open dialog free of snarky and sarcastic comments. I love the kemper's amp tones but I feel the effects are really weak. All the time based effects - chorus, delay, reverb are not really on par with even a mediocre pedal. For example, my $50 digitech digiverb in the loop sounds better than the built-in reverbs. The overdrives, distortions and fuzz pedals have too much gain. I often have to put a negative gain boost in front of them to get the gain down to usable levels. I find myself using an outboard zendrive, reverb, fuzz, TS9, vibe-machine and wah pedal. Maybe that's not such a bad thing. Just wondering your thoughts? Threw this kemper clip together of my 175, my kemper with a fender twin profile and the digitech reverb. The digitech isn't the greatest but the tails are are cleaner than what I get out of the kemper reverb. here's another one with ampfactory's vibrolux reverb and the internal hall reverb. I like this reverb sound more than others I've been playing around with though the mix is too high. [FOLLOW-ON-EDIT] Here's an example I recorded this morning before work. Slight slapback delay along with hall reverb. Really evokes the '80s George Benson sound where he was playing through a twin. At this point, I'm sticking with the kemper and even though I'm not crazy about some of the effects I think it'll be 6 of one 1/2 dozen of another to switch to the Axefx. Tempted to delete this thread because of all the chest beating and noise but there is some good info here. In light of that, it'd be nice if the off topic folks deleted their postings but I won't hold my breath, lol.