Cross Canadian Ragweed

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  1. Mpcoluv

    Mpcoluv Supporting Member

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    These guy put out a lot of great music several years ago.
    I wonder if their name hampered their success?
     
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    here he is playing a beat up PRS..... I have this tune on a Ray Wylie Hubbard record.

     
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    I think, like a lot of regional TX/OK acts, they had a built in ceiling to their appeal/reach/success. Where else could they go, what else could they do?
     
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    They were a great band but I agree with my fellow Texan, 27sauce, it's hard to sustain long-term success if you're not playing the Nashville game.

    Having said that, I love this song:

     
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    buddaman71 Student of Life Silver Supporting Member

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    97 or 98 my band at the time, The Hillbilly Love Gods, played at the famous Tumbleweed Calf Fry in Stillwater OK. (About 10,000 or so that year) We played right before the late great Chris LeDoux.

    We played a fun set, and as we were pulling our gear off stage, this surfer kid with long blond hair tapped me in the shoulder and asked if I was the guy with the green guitar? (I played a trans green Tom Anderson back then)

    I said yes, he said, “you’re awesome, my band is playing the after party at the county barn. Would you come jam with us? All my original tunes have 3 chords.”

    I said, “heck yea!” About 3000 kids showed up to that after party and, tho the guys were still learning, it was instantly obvious that the kid was a star and killer natural songwriter.

    I basically played one of their first lager shows before I even knew it was Cody and the boys from OK.

    I was good friends with the guys from the great OK RedDirt band The Great Divide, who were kind of CCRs mentors. I’ve played many shows with those guys and many of the Texas acts of the late 90s/00s. Pat Green/Jack Ingram/Lee Roy Parnell and many others.

    love that music, and CCR has such instantly identifiable songs and sound. I actually live in Yukon, OK just down the road from Grady Cross’ awesome music dive bar Grady’s 66.

    So many good times and countless stories.
     
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    so great songs and sound don’t matter out side TX/OK?
    So you are saying it still takes a,big record company to be a national hit?
     
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    Actually, I meant they didn’t really have the songs to transcend the scene/movement.

    Their mass success here probably hurt them in the big picture. It’s difficult to be a huge draw here and play small clubs everywhere else. Yo either have to have the persistence to want to work the markets or music strong enough to do the work for you.
     
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    On the flip side, I know guys who just wanna play what and where they like. Not everyone wants to be Tim McGraw or Garth Brooks.
     
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    It seems to me the music was pretty damn strong, but maybe the management or the business sense was lacking.
     
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    I bet Cody would like to be one of those guys. He got too big to go back to dives and didn’t stay big enough to keep in the big rooms. It really puts you in a corner of festivals and big lineup events.
     
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    I think that's it. I feel the same about Reckless Kelly. It's good stuff but it's probably not going further than where it is. Red Dirt is its own thing.
     
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    It’s hard to gauge. They had big, successful albums. The Texas market is so big that you could have an album that only sells in TX and makes it to the top ten country charts, or even the over all charts. It happens all the time. Aaron Watson had a number 1 country album not long ago... Majors then sign them up(josh Abbott) and spit them out after they don’t perform in the big picture. It’s weird.
     
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    Is anything Cody did post CCR worth buying?
    Also what was his rig? He got a fairly good angus young type tone....
     
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    After listening to live from Tulsa, I guess they were way too rock for Nashville. I can’t believe I didn’t latch onto them when they were a band.
    I’m glad I finally found them. Still looking for a rundown on Cody’s gear...
     
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    Haven't listened to them in a long time, but used to dig a couple of their albums when I was in a constant search for new alt-country to listen to. The genre (I know they are more considered Red Dirt, but that is basically alt-country) sort of has a ceiling built in, with it's too country for rock radio and to rock for country sound. At their height though, they were pretty big without being too mainstream.
     
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    I just watched an interview of Cody from early this year at Key West.
    Basically they got pretty big and then fell apart. They were offered a tour with Miranda Lambert but Cody refused to do it.
    If you are trying to sell your music, why not play before giant crowds?
    Unless the tour promoter tries to tell you what songs to play.
    I imagine if they went on that tour their trajectory would have continued upward.
    Btw it looks like Cody is playing through some sort of PRS amp now.
     
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    Miranda Lambert has been taking out the big Tx/Ok act of the day for a while now, which is pretty cool. It seems something always happens. Canada, Turnpike, Cojo...

    The Departed haven’t toured with her? I could have sworn they did. Maybe not.

    From what the Cody Johnson guys have told me, she’s given them carte blanch. Treated well, long sets...

    I think Johnson will be the first regional act in a while to really break out nationally. But, I wouldn’t be surprised if it fizzled. Wouldn’t be the first.
     
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    When they split I recall the bass player was the first to say he wanted to take a break as he was just starting a family and maybe had a parent or grandparent he was going to help care for. Or at least that was the polite way to put it, I don't know. I fully expected them to continue at some point but that's probably been 10 years ago now and their original college aged audience is turning 40 and up now. They were though very popular on a regional level and were in my opinion one of the founding fathers of that red dirt movement era that inspired a lot of bands to be formed in the region. It all made you forget Nashville even mattered.

    In my opinion I'm sure Nashville didn't want them because they wrote their own songs and played their own instruments. No money to be made for song writers and studio musicians.
     
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    Cody sort of insinuated it was Grady Cross.....
     

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