I recently got a D-Tar Mama bear on Ebay after reading the threads on this forum. I was so impressed with with it did to my amplified acoustic tone (previously using an Aura Sixteen) I immediately bought another one AND a D-Tar Equinox from Kijiji from the next Province for a great package deal - the second D Mama for my partner in an acoustic duo I'm putting together. I mostly play finger style with a bunch of decent guitars, tuned differently, with Piezo pickups. So Now I have world class acoustic tone. I have a Neuenaber 'Wet' reverb I like for the occasional 'shimmer' and there's a possibility I might mess with a TC Electronics 'Alter Ego' delay as well. Some of this is obvious - but what would my signal chain be? Mamma Bear before the Equinox? Or the other way around?. I guess I'd be in the situation of losing the XLR out to the board if the effects go after the D_tar stuff. Also , is the Mama Bear that good that it doesn't need any updates since 2006 when it landed?