D13 FTR 37 vs D13 10/20

Urkoman

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According to the D13´s site the 10/20 is like a smaller wattage version of the 37. I love the 37 but i´d like it with a little less wattage as it´s non MV.
Are they that similar? The A/AB class switch seems very interesting too :)
 
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from what i understand they are very similar, but the ftr also has a half power switch that drops it down to 18 watts. from what i understood when i called fred is that they are similar but the 10/20 only has one channel. thats one of the main reasons i pulled through for the ftr.
 

Urkoman

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Are you sure of that :confused:
I ask because on the D13 site says:
Both channels found in the FTR 37 are made available via the two input jacks in the 10/20
Or that refers to the low and high inputs on each channel on the 37?
 
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thats exactly what i thought. i originally asked him about the smallbox version of the rsa 23 and he said that it's only one channel instead of 2. once i started talking about the differences between the 10/20 and ftr37 he said that the 10/20 also only has one channel. you could give him a call to confirm ... but thats what i understood.
 

Neon

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The SJT 10/20 has only one channel. There are two jacks: high-gain and low-gain. The amp is meant to be used one input at a time. The low-gain input jack disconnects the high gain jack. This is different from the FTR 37 which has the two independent channels.

The web site comparison between the SJT 10/20 and FTR 37 inputs can be a bit confusing.
 

spence

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I have both amps and you won't get much in the way of cleans with the 10/20. It'll clean up at really low volumes, but you can't really use it live for punchy cleans like the FTR, especially with humbuckers. It fairs a little better with single coils. I sold a FTR thinking that the 10/20 would give me the same clean/dirty but at a lower volume. I ended up buying another FTR for the cleans. My 10/20 overdrives earlier than the FTR, which I like, and at a lower volume too. Both are incredible amps.
 

Sam Evans

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Originally posted by Ted Witcher
So, is the SJT like Deluxe Reverb clean? I'm thinking 20 watts, 6V6s, etc...
Kinda. The 10/20 has more bottom and high-end bite. It's much more aggressive as well.
 

spence

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I think the cleans on the Deluxe Reverb are much better than the 10/20. The Deluxe has that spongy, spanky, fendery thing going for it. I was disappointed with the 10/20's cleans, so I use it as a lead only amp. The headroom of the 37 is just wonderful on the clean channel.
 

redplexi

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You guy's are scaring me. Mine is on a Fed-Ex truck for delivery. I also was under the impression that the Clean Headroom would be similar to a Deluxe Reverb. I was Hoping that it would be good for some Chicken Picking sounds with a Telecaster. So it's more like a Tweed Deluxe with reverb, like a Little Marshall in a Box??
 

spence

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redplexi,
Don't get too disappointed yet. A tele won't overdrive the 10/20 very quickly, so you might be able to get the volume out of it that you need. That being said, I still believe the Deluxe Reverb would give you a better clean, but that's just my opinion. You may think different. I play old Firebirds and a Les Paul, and I don't think they sound very good when turned down to the point of being clean. But boy, that FTR really puts out the goods.
 

studio8000

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i've had two 10/20's... first one i had was in a combo and when i played around with that one, i thought there was no usable clean headroom. it had a great bluesy crunch at lower volumes and rocked out when turned up. but i was hoping for more clean headroom... so i sold it.

well, i decided to give it another try and recently picked up a 10/20 head. i dunno if there have been updates or what, but this time around i have plenty of headroom. i'm not talking like twin reverb clean... but it has usable headroom. i used it at a gig last weekend in a room with a few hundred people... had the volume at around 9-10oclock. and it stayed pretty clean and was plenty loud. i used Gretschs, and a Duesenberg with humbuckers. i loved it at that setting where the cleans had some character and edge to it... then use a boost/overdrive to kick in some nice gain. i used it through a 2x12 cab... so maybe that helped with keeping it clean longer.

anyone know if there were some changes to the circuit? i thought i heard of some new mods for the 10/20. maybe mine has that?
 




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