Darkburst vs. Crossroads Neck

jamison162

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Which do you prefer and why. Will be mathched up with a Darkburst or Goodwood Bridge (I have one of each).

I know a lot of folks go DB/GW; but there's also the American Steele set consisting of the CR/GW combination.

Help me out here.....
 

English Jim

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I have a Darkburst in the neck of my Oxblood. Don't like it - too muddy. Sounded great in my SG but just doesn't cut it in the Les Paul. The Crossroads sounds OK in the bridge but a little harsh/bright. I'll be switching them both out when I get round to it - I have a pair of Frailins ready to go. The WCR's will go back into the SG.
 

gizmo

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I agree with CWY. I had Darkbursts in my LP for quite a while. Loved the DB in the bridge position but I could not dial out the boominess in the neck. With my amps dialed in for either pickup, I found that had to re-adjust again for the other. However, when I put a CR in the neck, all of that was solved. It's easy to dial in the bridge to taste but now I can flip to neck with no problem. Great combination to my ears.

By the way, the guitar is a 2001 LP standard with the RS premium upgrade and lightweight TP. Amps are vintage fenders and a marshall. ymmv.
 

IndieHead

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Will an RS kit open the sound up? I heard someone share his experience, and installing hovland caps help to clean out the mud.

Will covers make a big difference?
 

BrownDog

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In my Beano burst, I have a Crossroads neck and Darkburst bridge - perfect combo IMO. The neck is sweet/clear/articulate and the bridge is very similar BUT with a little extra muscle/kick.

For myself alone and with tone and oneness, Mike
 

gizmo

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Will an RS kit open the sound up? I heard someone share his experience, and installing hovland caps help to clean out the mud.

Will covers make a big difference?


Yes the RS kit will open it up. Worked wonders on mine and if you do a search, you'll get more hits than you can read in a day praising it.
 
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I have an LP with a GW+ bridge/DarkBurst neck with Bees.The DB neck may be one of the best pickups i own(unless you take the BetSet into account-it depends on the day).The tone is incredible with lighter od and sounds 'flutey',which was impossible to get from any other pickup.
 

gizmo

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hey gizmo....

the rs kit didnt manage to clear out the mud in ur darkburst neck?

It wasn't so much mud that I was trying to dial out. The neck DB just seemed to be an output/volume mismatch with the bridge in MY guitar. I even lowered the pickup almost under the ring and it still seemed to overpower the sound. Don't get me wrong, the overall tone was clearly great on its own. It had that fantastic liquidy-smooth woman tone that I love. It just didn't match well with my particular DB bridge/guitar combo. Now If I would have had a hotter bridge it probably would have been a great match.

The CR cured the mismatch problem but still provides creamy smooth tone.
 

davess23

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I ain't got no stinkin' mud in my DB neck. '05 R8, wonderful round tones, very responsive to the amp's controls.
 

Festus

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The DB/CR combo sounds great in my LP standard (it's chambered). I should install the RS kit, just haven't gotten around to that yet. The GW/DB combos I've tried in LP's get a bit dark for my taste, but sound killer in my PRS Cu22. It does depend a lot on the guitar, definitely.

So, at this point, I prefer a Crossroads neck in Les Pauls.
 

amc

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I have a Darkburst/Fillmore set with an RS kit in a '99 McCarty that has a Brazilian Rosewood neck.
The Darkburst neck has a sweet, flutey sound and splits well
The Fillmore bridge has a more cutting sound and also splits well.

They work well together in the middle position as well.

Obviously, this is IMHO, YMMV...
 

English Jim

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Mud in Darkburst neck? I just don't see how that's possible. Must be an issue somewhere else in the chain, IMO.

Chain =
Gtr > Mogami > /13 FRT37

I have 4 other LP's with different PU's to A/b (c/d) it with. The DB just doesn't cut it in a live situation with a full band. Sounds good in the studio at home but on stage just doesn't work for me. YMMV (obviously)
 

vdoochild7

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I have a Darkburst/Fillmore set with an RS kit in a '99 McCarty that has a Brazilian Rosewood neck.
The Darkburst neck has a sweet, flutey sound and splits well
The Fillmore bridge has a more cutting sound and also splits well.

They work well together in the middle position as well.

Obviously, this is IMHO, YMMV...

AMC--I was thinking of the same combo in my McCarty as well. How do this combo compare to the stocks? I'm pretty set on the Darkburst neck, but I'm torn between the Darkburst Bridge and the Fillmore Bridge. I kind of like the stock pickups, but I"m looking for more clarity, less mud,and a more balanced tone.
 

Loni Specter

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I had a darkburst in my LP neck and had to pull it because it was too hot and overpowered the DB bridge. Put a crossroads in the neck and all is well. :dude
 

Fixxxer

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I own both and both are FANTASTIC. Very good, and nice. The darkburst is phatter and sounds great on the cleans.

The Cross roads is more innocent, but phat as well.
 

tybone

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Crossroads neck please.

I am with Loni on this one. For me, it is a difference in feel an output between the crossroads and the DB's. I found that I had to really lower the pickup and raise the pole pieces to get the feel I wanted and the output that matched the birdge.

I also find that the clarity of the crossroads pickup still comes through when I play with overdrive. They are quite sweet in the neck that way.

Cheers
Larry
 

Sweet T

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I had a set of Crossroads with the A5 magnets in my H535. I loved the neck-it was clear but thick, not muddy at all. The bridge I was less than in love with. So I got ahold of a Darkburst bridge pickup with an A2 magnet in it (which Jim says is a pretty popular combination) and it's at the luthier right now getting installed.

I'll give a report when I get it back.
 




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