Delay pedals that oscillate? (noise players!)

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  1. Antero

    Antero Member

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    I recently recorded a guitar part where I used the delay built into ProTools, with the feedback cranked, to turn the guitar into self-oscillating madness. It was fun as heck, and sounded awesome - every note collapsed into shrieking harmonics.

    So, what pedals could offer me similar self-oscillating bliss?

    Thanks.
     
  2. dividedsky

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    Even though I would never ever depend on a DL-4 it has awesome oscillation capabilities. Also any of the Boss Delays will do it. A lot of people have recommened analog delays for this but I've had very little success with them.
     
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    Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man!
    (ive got one for sale if youre interested)
     
  4. drolling

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    Really? Which preset does that? I've got to admit that I mainly used the DL-4 as a looper untill it died, but I could never get any of the simulations to do the runaway feedback of, say, a Boss DM2 or an EH MemoryMan. Most digital delay algorhythms (even the ones that are 'analog' voiced) just aren't designecd to do that. The funniest thing is that when they were first introduced, the fact that they didn't self-osscillate was seen as 'progress'.

    To answer the original question, the new Diamond MemoryLane does it very well - almost too well. I use an expression pedal to control the feedback, as this pedal can really go nuts at just about any setting.
     
  5. jonny guitar

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    I have an old DOD 585 Delay that oscillates like crazy when I want it to. Very underated pedals that can be had for cheap....however they do have the sad512 chip so if they clunk out they become paperweights.
     
  6. g-nem

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    The DL4 osciallation didn't seem very musical to me- I didn't like it.

    My big regret about the boss dd20 is that the time knob is a rotary encoder, so pitch shifting while osciallating has an inevitable stepping quality to it.

    The guyatone md2 or md3 are great at self-oscillating- they pitch shift very cleanly when you tweak the time knob- almost like pitch shifting a sample.

    Ibanez AD9's and similar analog pedals have a different self-oscillation feel- when you start to tweak the time the sound turns into a real mess- which is a different kind of cool than the guyatone and other digital delay pedals.
     
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    ya the memory lane does it real well
     
  8. threm

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    For full flexibility and control you`ll need a delay with an expression pedal for the repeats

    Both the Echoczar and the MemoryLane do this very nicely
    I have a modded AD900 that also does the wild oscillation thing in a controlled way with a pedal.
    I believe most analog delays can be modded to add an expr pedal for repeats/feedback.
     
  9. rawkguitarist

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    Well the DL4 has tons of self-oscillating capabilities. I will agree, not as "musical" as my AD-900... but still cool. The *Sweep* echo does some real cool SO stuff. The point is, you have to use the EQ controls to get more musical SO sounds. The cool thing, you can set it perfectly for a particular part live, and just call it up live.

    Drolling, I don't have my DL4 here... but the

    Sweep
    Space Echo
    Tape Echo's

    settings do it, I'm pretty sure. Funny thing, you'd really want it on the Analog settings, I can't remember trying it with those settings.
     
  10. Bryan T

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    I use the DL-4 for self-oscillation a lot when making noise. A lot of the modes do it, but the ones that allow for control over the tone of the delay are the best. The analog delay, lo-fi delay, and digital delay settings all work well.

    Bryan
     
  11. Nathan

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    If you're a noisemaker, the Quicksilver will please you. It's deeper on the modulation than the Memory Lane and the expression jack controls the delay time, not the # of repeats. So you can have the pitch bending effects and throw another effect into the loop (without rewiring like the Memory Lane). Anyway, I like it alot.
     
  12. drbob1

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    Self Oscillating Delays:
    1. The cheapest and most bang for the buck I think goes for the old and almost impossible to find Guyatone Analog Echo-this is from the Flip tube series, has only 200 mS of delay, but you can play it like a synth-start a note, grab the delay knob for the pitch and the feedback knob for volume and off you go...

    2. Any of the studio quality delays will do some very cool things between modulation/feedback and self-oscillation. See if you can find a Yamaha 1005 or 1010 or an Ibanez AD202-very underpriced for the capability.

    3. I think any analog delay pretty much will do this with greater or lesser grace. You can buy those 3rd hand things to adjust the parameters in real time. I'd particularily single out the SIB analog delay, since you can add a CV pedal to control delay (pitch) and a 3rd hand for feedback (volume).

    4. I think the Mooger Fooger is probably the most full featured if you can find one. With the CP251 control box you can basically run any of the parameters with CV or LFO control, including sample and hold madness...
     
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    The SIB Mr Echo, IMHO a very underrated pedal, actually has a second footswitch to send whatever your setting currently is into self-ocsillating mayhem
     
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    I have a Guyatone Analog Delay flip-tube series that will self-oscillate till the cows come home. It's got a 12ax7 tube in it so it's nice and warm. Suprise, I'm also selling it so PM me if you're interested.
     
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    The DL-4 will do it.

    The Mooger Fooger analog delay does it better.
    :D
     
  16. rawkguitarist

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    splatt, you BETTER get yer spelling right!!

    :AOK
     
  17. drbob1

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    I'd don't know if you want to sell that k-a, they only brought them into the country for 2 months-destined to be a VERY rare pedal...
     
  18. Jon C

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    The Memory Lane will definitely do the self oscillating thing in an impressive way but the instructions pretty clearly lay out the range to stay in to keep that under check (less than 12:00 setting IIRC).
     
  19. Antero

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    Thanks, gents. I think I'm gonna try to seek out the Guyatone or the SIB (there's an SIB dealer near my house). Some of the others sound awesome, but, well, student budgets and all. :(
     
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    There is a guyatone flip delay on musicgoround.com - search for guyatone and it is the first item ( i think they call it the ad9 or something.)

    Based on the HC reports, the mr echo gets the worst reliability ratings, and complete lack of customer support I've ever seen- I like the mr echo in principle, but have to pass based on that.
     

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