Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs' started by Damian13, Aug 19, 2016.
I vote for running two Deluxe Reverbs. It'll sound great and be louder. More to carry though...
A more efficient speaker or cab it prolly the best option.
I wonder if another efficient speaker that is not so dark as a Cannibas Rex would change the 'perception' of loudness by 10-15 percent? WGS ET65 would be my first choice if I was in your situation. Or if I want to go even brighter and bolder, I'd go with the WGS G10C (not the smooth cone version as it is way too dark).
You hit the 'glass ceiling'. Trying to get more out of that amp will result in changing the sound. If you change trafo or tubes, you'll lose that saturation. I know a guy in South Florida who has been dealing with the same issue for a very long time. He still hasn't found a solution.
Yes I'm aware. It a complex issue for certain. I think in this scenario it would be worth trying, given the small amount he is hoping to attain, which is more in the "perceived" volume category.
If a small amp is small then get a bigger amp. No need to complicate things...
Your user name allures me.
-The Loud family
What you want:
-A cleaner speaker than the CRex. A DR has dirt of it's own, don't add to it. I've used mine with a big EV15 for a while before. Very nice. Although rated as loud the Crex was not as loud in my BFDR.
-JJ 6V6's. Biased a bit low, Maybe 19-21 milliamps. of course depends on your voltage.
Other things you can do:
-Get an MXR Micro amp, keep it on all the time between 12- and 1 oclock position.
-Go to a SS rectifier module. May help a bit , not huge as the GZ34 is a pretty robust rectifier.
-Never turn the bass over 4.
Next step up is a Vibrolux Reverb. It's a DR with 6L6's.
YES. the Crex was very "dim" in my DR. One gig and it was gone.
A note on this.
I recently played my brothers '65 DR, it had been modded with SS recto and 6l6s back in the 70s. JBL too, I think.
It was a glorious sounding amp. But, it did NOT sound like my SFDR, with 6v6s in it. Sounded a lot more like a Vibrolux Reverb or some such.
If you want 6v6 and want it louder, you have speaker efficiency, and if that is not enough, reamping. I have a Power Station. Problem solved. I can add another speaker, too, with the impedance matching, and make the DR louder than my pro reverb, if I want.
But I don't, the DR really is enough live for me. Even in a 3 guitar band. Crank it and it is just the right volume in a bar. Bigger places, I was miced, so it was irrelevant. Plus I got the pro, if I want to go that way.
You could try a clean boost pedal. Might need to use the #2 input depending on how much boost. You may not have to change anything in the DR.
Too bright for that amp
Sounds like you need a twinney twin twin!
As Mr. Kite mentioned in an earlier post, try a Sound Enhancer amp stand. I use one one with my SFPR and it really fattens up the sound plus it ups the volume.It takes the volume you normally would lose through the back of your combo cab and projects it out front. When I played with a band I would rarely get the volume up past 4.
send it to VSA, there is a mod that takes the vibrato off of the circuit and redirects at least 5 watts in to the front of the amp
Try a 1-12 ext cab with an efficient and brighter speaker than the CRex (G12H30 would be worth a shot). Otherwise stop trying to swim upstream and get the next bigger Fender-Vibrolux, Pro Reverb, etc.. That's the way Leo designed it.
I should have said it in my post above, but a G12H30 is my number 2 speaker choice behind the Vintage 30 for my '71 SFDR. It all depends on how much you want to bring out the kids in the amp. They both have a great, firm low end with these amps.
Disconnecting the vibrato adds no power.
Fryette Power Station