Derek Trucks Super Six / 10" Speaker Quest

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  1. DestroyAllGuitars

    DestroyAllGuitars Member

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    Got the lowdown from the horses mouth. His Super Six is
    actually just a Super Six cabinet with innards built by Lord Valve.
    The speakers are a model called the "DT10" which were
    designed by Ted Webber and Lord Valve.

    Folks, the wait for a 10" speaker that will rock with the best
    vintage ceramic speaker Super Reverbs is over. These are as
    good as it's gonna get. I ran my Cowtipper 45 through a 4x10
    cab loaded with these last night and am now sitting on 28 crisp
    100 dollar bills that I got for my favorite 1966 Super Reverb amp.
    I just ordered 4 more that Tony Bruno will be putting into a cab
    for my Tweedy35.

    The D10's are available only through Lord Valve who also has
    a massive selection of nos tubes. The tubes are his main business
    and he builds amps only under special circumstances, such as
    Derek needing more volume for the Allman's live shows. Derek
    has just had 2 1965 Supers outfitted with the D10's for his own
    band's live shows and Warren has copped a few as well.

    Lord Valve does not have an active website but you can find
    his contact info at www.nebsnow.com/lordvalve

    He's a real character. A B3 player who plays on occasion
    with Derek and Warren. There are some links to live
    Derek Trucks shows where Lord Valve is rocking the B3.
    Here is the link: www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=23099 FatWillie is playing on the song"Feel So Bad".

    FatWillie is Lord Valve.

    Hope this helps some of you folks. I do my best to get accurate
    info right from the players themselves.
     
  2. tmac

    tmac Goldmember Gold Supporting Member

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    Are the new speaks based in any way on the old Pyle 10s that D. Trucks loved in his SUper Reverbs?
     
  3. DestroyAllGuitars

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    The schematics for the Pyle 10's were used in the develmopent
    of the D10s. I believe that one of the owners of Pyle was
    related to Mr. Weber. Anyhow, that was their starting point and
    I can tell you the end result is awesome IMO.
     
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    Man,I remember getting the Super 6 and the Quade reverb when they both came out in the early 70's.They weren't really happening amps at that time.We were using old Super's,Twins,and Marshalls at the same time.

    I haven't seen Derek use the rebuilt Super 6 w/the ABB in quite some time.I've have front row pit sits for their show at Saratoga this summer.I'll give you a full review then(still a bit away yet).
     
  5. DestroyAllGuitars

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    Apparently Derek needed more volume than his Super Reverb
    had and wanted to go back to a more classic Fender tone that
    he could not get from the Randall. Hence the Super Six which
    Lord Valve rebuilt from scratch. The only original parts are the cab and pots.
     
  6. michael.e

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    I have a pair of them set in an "X" pattern with a pair of Alltone 1030's. I cannot get enough! I did a gig tonight at the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium, and that cab with the Belov 4-6V6 amp head on top just ruled! I had this cleanish amp cranked and hung on the neck pickup of my Strat. Thick, blossoming, throaty tone! I really dig these speakers! M.E.

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    It would be fun to know more about the circuit that LV created for Derek. I heard him playing through that amp, and the word awesome, while overused, really comes to mind to describe the tone Derek got from it. A mighty tone.
     
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    Great research and link, Stekks. If you call Lord Valve, especially
    if you are ordering stuff, he seems more than happy to get into
    detail on his work and various other topics, but don't talk guitar
    with him as he is a B3 player and will tell you that if was stuck up a river he'd use a guitar for a paddle. Guitar talk is all mumbojumbo to him, but boy does he know his sh** when it
    comes to amps, tubes , speakers and tone. Yesterday was the 1st
    time I spoke with him as I wanted to order the DT10's for the Bruno cab, and we ended up speaking for quite some time. What a trip.......definitely going to start buying my tubes from him as well.

    If you want the DT10 speakers, you gotta talk to Lord Valve as
    he is the only one authorized to sell them.

    Lord Valve can be found at: 303-778-1156
     
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    Here's another link I found that has cool info on the circuit of the Super Six:


    Super Six Project
     
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    Very cool, Cliff. Thanks!
     
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    Wow, that was really freeking cool. :cool:


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  13. DestroyAllGuitars

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    The Super Six rebuild story is great, but what is of importance
    here, is the DT10 speaker, as there really has not been a great
    10" ceramic speaker made recently that could really hang with
    the CTS 10s that were found in some of the greatest amps of the
    60's.

    There are lots of great 12"s and 15"s to be found that are
    great and now I feel we finally have a 10" that can hang.
     
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    Cliff,
    Could you say how the DT10's compare with speakers like the Weber C10Q and C10N? What is it about the DT10 that sets it apart? I've used both Webers in Super Reverbs and still use the C10Q in my Custom Super, and love it. But with this news, I'm definitely intrigued with the DT10's.
     
  15. DestroyAllGuitars

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    It was the folks at Webber who referred me to Willie (Lord Valve)
    when I told them what I was looking for!!!!!!!!!

    They were the ones who said that the DT10 was the real deal.
    I then got in touch with Warren and he verified everything for
    me in regard to Derek's amp and speaker setup.

    Webber manufactures the DT10 but Lord Valve is the exclusive
    distributor for the speaker.

    IMO it slays the C10Q.
     
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    Can someone tell me some specifics about the DT10s? I've got an email into Lord Valve and a post over on the Weber speaker board, but no replies to anything yet.

    I've got two questions. Will two of these stand up behind my 100w Sundown head? Can you get them in 16 ohms so I can wire up an 8 ohm cab from them?

    Thanks!
     
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    He has both 8 & 16 ohm versions. Just give Willie a call at:
    303-778-1156 and tell him I referred you.

    Willie is Lord Valve
     
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