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Diamond ML Jr's 4th mode

rhoydotp

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just creating a separate thread specifically for this ...

quotes from another thread

Hope it's ok to jump in here... just to clarify, the new fourth 'short delay' mode that is being released on the MLJr has a maximum delay time of 600 ms but does have completely variable clocking with pitch shifting when the delay is changed (on both the knob and tap - just like the ML1/2). The original three MLJr modes (quarter note / dotted eighth / triplet) continue to have 1200 ms max delay time, with a short mute of the delayed signal (equal to the length of the previous delay time) when changing delays. We're hoping that incorporating both approaches gives live and studio application flexibility.

Cheers,

Michael Knappe
Diamond Pedals
Hi everyone! We did begin shipping MLJr's with the latest firmware last week as a NAMM 2012 launch (most dealers will not have it yet), but no worries, if you have the original firmware load we're putting together a fairly painless plan if you'd like to have your MLJr sent in and updated. Aimish will chime in with details on the upgrade plan once he's in on Monday.

It's easy to tell if it has the mod or not - the new firmware version has a fourth mode with alternating green/red led flashing.

Cheers,

Michael Knappe
Diamond Pedals
 

wundergussy

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Really don't want to be without my pedal for a couple weeks, but man, this mod sounds great.
 

Abandoned

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The good news is that I just bought one from PGS - so I can just exchange mine for an updated one when they get them in stock. Perfect.
It's definitely better than mailing into Canada and waiting for the mod to be done.
 

4nd3h

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HA! SO NOW YOU AMERICANS KNOW THE PAIN OF SHIPPING OVER THE BORDER!!!!!

It does suck.
 

mknappe

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The good news is that I just bought one from PGS - so I can just exchange mine for an updated one when they get them in stock. Perfect.
It's definitely better than mailing into Canada and waiting for the mod to be done.
We'll have both a Canadian and US address to ship to for the upgrade, so US customers will not need to ship to Canada. Also, no need to exchange with the dealer. Also, if someone does purchase an MLJr with original firmware from a dealer, we'll have a quick turnaround upgrade path for those who'd like the update.

For our international customers - we're still working out the best logistic path, details very soon.

Cheers,

Michael Knappe
Diamond Pedals
 

rhoydotp

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Also, if someone does purchase an MLJr with original firmware from a dealer, we'll have a quick turnaround upgrade path for those who'd like the update.
Cool ... would like to get more details on this once you have the firm plan :aok
 

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We'll have both a Canadian and US address to ship to for the upgrade, so US customers will not need to ship to Canada. Also, no need to exchange with the dealer. Also, if someone does purchase an MLJr with original firmware from a dealer, we'll have a quick turnaround upgrade path for those who'd like the update.

For our international customers - we're still working out the best logistic path, details very soon.

Cheers,

Michael Knappe
Diamond Pedals
Good to know. I'm looking forward to the details of getting it done.
 

mknappe

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What does this 4th mode sound like?

Any demos yet?
Unfortunately no demos yet - other than pitch shift artifacts while changing delays, the sound of the delays in the new mode will be the same as the original modes. As with the original MLjr firmware, modulation will continue to be created in all modes by small variations of the sample rate.

Cheers,

Michael Knappe
Diamond Pedals
 

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As with the original MLjr firmware, modulation will continue to be created in all modes by small variations of the sample rate.

Cheers,

Michael Knappe
Diamond Pedals
What does this mean? Explanation please?
 

mknappe

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What does this mean? Explanation please?
We create the chorus-y warble in the MLJr by small changes in the sample rate - conceptually the same as what is done with the clocking of bucket brigade devices in analog delays (like the ML1/2), and akin to minor variations in tape speed (wow and flutter) in a tape delay. By clocking samples into a buffer at one speed, then playing them out at a slightly different speed a bit later, we can introduce minor pitch variations that when mixed with the direct signal give a water-y / chorus-y sound.

Cheers,

Michael Knappe
Diamond Pedals
 

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We create the chorus-y warble in the MLJr by small changes in the sample rate - conceptually the same as what is done with the clocking of bucket brigade devices in analog delays (like the ML1/2), and akin to minor variations in tape speed (wow and flutter) in a tape delay. By clocking samples into a buffer at one speed, then playing them out at a slightly different speed a bit later, we can introduce minor pitch variations that when mixed with the direct signal give a water-y / chorus-y sound.

Cheers,

Michael Knappe
Diamond Pedals
Cool. Thanks so much.
 

jaxapi

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For our international customers - we're still working out the best logistic path, details very soon.
oooohhh we thank you for that mister Knappe ....

i have a MLjr with the first firmware (without modulation on/off - low serial number ) will it be possible to update it ?

How long you keep the box for the update ?
(and thank you again to think for something for international customers )
 

awallace

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Just a quick note to add to what Mike has already said- serial numbers above 593 include the new software version. The new mode is accessed using the middle toggle switch to set the right LED to blinking red/green. The very early,pre 'modulation switching' pedals are also upgradeable to the very latest software.

Note that the current 3 modes (the 1/4, dotted 8th and triplet rhythmic subdivision modes) are unchanged. The only change is an added 4th mode for folks that like the pitch shifting that happens when you change the delay time on the fly typical of analog delays. The new mode is however limited to 600ms unlike the 3 standard modes that offer 1200ms and you can only tap quarters.

The pitch shifting isn't for everyone, in fact that was one of the common complaints about tapping in the time on the MLN1/MLN2- lots of people didn't like the pitch shift sounds you would get as the pedal transitioned to the new delay time. Different strokes for different folks. Those who like it can now have that effect on the Jr.
 






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