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Diamond Vibrato

tapeup

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I see it's release has now been pushed back to winter '08. Bummer!!
 

markom89

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Oh snap!
Looks awsome.
Knowing Diamond, this will be awsome.
Can't wait to try it out, but am dissapointed at the release date they're aiming for :(
 

-analog-

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played it at namm- it was stunning.. they had that ran into the Memory lane 2.. it was great sounding
 

awallace

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Hi all, hope you don't mind me chiming in on this. Since NAMM where we received tons of positive feedback on the pedal we've re-evaluated the Vibrato. There's no question that it sounded good and was packed with features but we realized several things- it took up a lot of pedalboard real estate, it was going to be expensive, and to get the most out of the autopanning circuit you had to be running a stereo setup. In mono the autopanning circuit was a decent trem but not stunning.

With that in mind we've gone back and revisited the design, and made some hard decisions with regards to the Vibrato pedal. We're building the current prototypes now which are a straight up analog vibrato pedal sans autopanning circuit. It will be smaller (Halo chorus sized), less expensive and easier to use while still sounding great. On this round of prototypes we've kept the expression pedal inputs for speed and depth, the 'Link" function is no longer there (as it was used in combination with the panning circuit) and we're playing around with the control set. Looks like it will probably be Speed, Depth, possibly a 'Range' switch and maybe a 'Blend' to bring in some dry sound for a chorusy sound.

We're also considering designing a dedicated trem pedal along with some other projects we're working on.

Regards,

Aimish Wallace
Diamond Pedals
 

CWFurst

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Hi all, hope you don't mind me chiming in on this. Since NAMM where we received tons of positive feedback on the pedal we've re-evaluated the Vibrato. There's no question that it sounded good and was packed with features but we realized several things- it took up a lot of pedalboard real estate, it was going to be expensive, and to get the most out of the autopanning circuit you had to be running a stereo setup. In mono the autopanning circuit was a decent trem but not stunning.

With that in mind we've gone back and revisited the design, and made some hard decisions with regards to the Vibrato pedal. We're building the current prototypes now which are a straight up analog vibrato pedal sans autopanning circuit. It will be smaller (Halo chorus sized), less expensive and easier to use while still sounding great. On this round of prototypes we've kept the expression pedal inputs for speed and depth, the 'Link" function is no longer there (as it was used in combination with the panning circuit) and we're playing around with the control set. Looks like it will probably be Speed, Depth, possibly a 'Range' switch and maybe a 'Blend' to bring in some dry sound for a chorusy sound.

We're also considering designing a dedicated trem pedal along with some other projects we're working on.

Regards,

Aimish Wallace
Diamond Pedals
That's great. I would really be interested in seeing a trem from you guys.
 

LowWatt

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Damnit!!! You had my hopes up. I'm not sure if it was part of the original plan, but when I first saw this I was hoping that the Vibrato and Trem could be rhythmically linked to do an early CCR John Fogerty tone. It looks like my dream of a combo vibrato/trem pedal where I could lock the speed of both together will have to wait even longer.

Hi all, hope you don't mind me chiming in on this. Since NAMM where we received tons of positive feedback on the pedal we've re-evaluated the Vibrato. There's no question that it sounded good and was packed with features but we realized several things- it took up a lot of pedalboard real estate, it was going to be expensive, and to get the most out of the autopanning circuit you had to be running a stereo setup. In mono the autopanning circuit was a decent trem but not stunning.

With that in mind we've gone back and revisited the design, and made some hard decisions with regards to the Vibrato pedal. We're building the current prototypes now which are a straight up analog vibrato pedal sans autopanning circuit. It will be smaller (Halo chorus sized), less expensive and easier to use while still sounding great. On this round of prototypes we've kept the expression pedal inputs for speed and depth, the 'Link" function is no longer there (as it was used in combination with the panning circuit) and we're playing around with the control set. Looks like it will probably be Speed, Depth, possibly a 'Range' switch and maybe a 'Blend' to bring in some dry sound for a chorusy sound.

We're also considering designing a dedicated trem pedal along with some other projects we're working on.

Regards,

Aimish Wallace
Diamond Pedals
 

drolling

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I would really be interested in seeing a trem from you guys.
Yep, that IS great - Can't have too much trem, imo. ALL my amps have it, but that hasn't stopped me from acquiring a few pedals (and rack-mounts!) as well..

and To Amish, if you're still following this thread;
Have youse guys had the chance to acquaint yourselves w/an old Magnatone amp?? Somebody's got to/NEEDS to put that sound into a stompbox! VB-2's not even close (had one, FWIW), nor is the vibrato mode on Univibe, Deluxe MemoryMan, etc.

BTW, that purple enclosure colour is very cool - Please don't change that!!
 

AqueousView11

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Yep, that IS great - Can't have too much trem, imo. ALL my amps have it, but that hasn't stopped me from acquiring a few pedals (and rack-mounts!) as well..

and To Amish, if you're still following this thread;
Have youse guys had the chance to acquaint yourselves w/an old Magnatone amp?? Somebody's got to/NEEDS to put that sound into a stompbox! VB-2's not even close (had one, FWIW), nor is the vibrato mode on Univibe, Deluxe MemoryMan, etc.

BTW, that purple enclosure colour is very cool - Please don't change that!!
http://www.tonecraftamprepair.com/austone/html/vibro-stomp.html
 

erksin

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We're building the current prototypes now which are a straight up analog vibrato pedal sans autopanning circuit. It will be smaller (Halo chorus sized), less expensive and easier to use while still sounding great. On this round of prototypes we've kept the expression pedal inputs for speed and depth, the 'Link" function is no longer there (as it was used in combination with the panning circuit) and we're playing around with the control set. Looks like it will probably be Speed, Depth, possibly a 'Range' switch and maybe a 'Blend' to bring in some dry sound for a chorusy sound.

We're also considering designing a dedicated trem pedal along with some other projects we're working on.

Regards,

Aimish Wallace
Diamond Pedals
Will it be stereo and will it have a 'Latch' function similar to the VB-2..?

If so, put me on the list! :dude
 

awallace

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Will it be stereo and will it have a 'Latch' function similar to the VB-2..?

If so, put me on the list! :dude
Stereo- like the VB2 no, it will probably have a separate dry-out however.

Latch- even better, we've incorporated expression pedal control of the depth so that you can fade in and out at will and at any speed as opposed the the unlatched/rise time feature of the VB2.

Also, don't anyone get prematurely excited about a trem pedal- we're just thinking about doing one. Doesn't mean one will ever see the light of day...

Aimish
 

awallace

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Yep, that IS great - Can't have too much trem, imo. ALL my amps have it, but that hasn't stopped me from acquiring a few pedals (and rack-mounts!) as well..

and To Amish, if you're still following this thread;
Have youse guys had the chance to acquaint yourselves w/an old Magnatone amp?? Somebody's got to/NEEDS to put that sound into a stompbox! VB-2's not even close (had one, FWIW), nor is the vibrato mode on Univibe, Deluxe MemoryMan, etc.

BTW, that purple enclosure colour is very cool - Please don't change that!!
I'd love to check out an old Magnatone. And I'm pretty sure the purple isn't going to change.

Aimish Wallace
Diamond Pedals
 

Jacobpaul81

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Hi all, hope you don't mind me chiming in on this. Since NAMM where we received tons of positive feedback on the pedal we've re-evaluated the Vibrato. There's no question that it sounded good and was packed with features but we realized several things- it took up a lot of pedalboard real estate, it was going to be expensive, and to get the most out of the autopanning circuit you had to be running a stereo setup. In mono the autopanning circuit was a decent trem but not stunning.

With that in mind we've gone back and revisited the design, and made some hard decisions with regards to the Vibrato pedal. We're building the current prototypes now which are a straight up analog vibrato pedal sans autopanning circuit. It will be smaller (Halo chorus sized), less expensive and easier to use while still sounding great. On this round of prototypes we've kept the expression pedal inputs for speed and depth, the 'Link" function is no longer there (as it was used in combination with the panning circuit) and we're playing around with the control set. Looks like it will probably be Speed, Depth, possibly a 'Range' switch and maybe a 'Blend' to bring in some dry sound for a chorusy sound.

We're also considering designing a dedicated trem pedal along with some other projects we're working on.

Regards,

Aimish Wallace
Diamond Pedals
Awesome. I was thinking... man, why's it gotta be so big!!? Now I'm happy. Hopefully soon, I'll be :banana:bow:dude:band:BEER
 

Andy J.

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Hi all, hope you don't mind me chiming in on this. Since NAMM where we received tons of positive feedback on the pedal we've re-evaluated the Vibrato. There's no question that it sounded good and was packed with features but we realized several things- it took up a lot of pedalboard real estate, it was going to be expensive, and to get the most out of the autopanning circuit you had to be running a stereo setup. In mono the autopanning circuit was a decent trem but not stunning.

With that in mind we've gone back and revisited the design, and made some hard decisions with regards to the Vibrato pedal. We're building the current prototypes now which are a straight up analog vibrato pedal sans autopanning circuit. It will be smaller (Halo chorus sized), less expensive and easier to use while still sounding great. On this round of prototypes we've kept the expression pedal inputs for speed and depth, the 'Link" function is no longer there (as it was used in combination with the panning circuit) and we're playing around with the control set. Looks like it will probably be Speed, Depth, possibly a 'Range' switch and maybe a 'Blend' to bring in some dry sound for a chorusy sound.

We're also considering designing a dedicated trem pedal along with some other projects we're working on.

Regards,

Aimish Wallace
Diamond Pedals
See, now I'm excited 'bout this one again! I didn't really care for the big box and have no need for another trem... I initially became interested in this way back when the mock-up pictures showed it in a Halo sized box, and it was going to include a phaser of sorts. Expression pedal for speed and depth is mucho cool! :AOK
 

erksin

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Stereo- like the VB2 no, it will probably have a separate dry-out however.

Latch- even better, we've incorporated expression pedal control of the depth so that you can fade in and out at will and at any speed as opposed the the unlatched/rise time feature of the VB2.

Aimish
A dry out is even better!

A little bummed about the expression pedal option though (just my preference) - I don't have additional real estate to devote to one and what I loved about the VB-2's Latch mode was the ability to just step on it for accents like you would for B-3ish chord vibratos. Could one just use a small non-latching switch in place of a treadle like a Boss FS-5U, etc instead? That could be a happy compromise I think...
 

Jacobpaul81

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A dry out is even better!

A little bummed about the expression pedal option though (just my preference) - I don't have additional real estate to devote to one and what I loved about the VB-2's Latch mode was the ability to just step on it for accents like you would for B-3ish chord vibratos. Could one just use a small non-latching switch in place of a treadle like a Boss FS-5U, etc instead? That could be a happy compromise I think...
I'm happy with expression, but I can understand why others wouldn't be. Space is an issue. Now I gotta plan space for a pedal and expression pedal... but who cares. It's Vibrato! :AOK
 




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