Discussion in 'Guitars in General' started by Dr. Tweedbucket, Feb 8, 2008.
..... a 01 R8 in particular?
Funny you should ask as I'm watching Historic 57 Customs in black right now and I'd say a good 20% of the sellers try and pass off regular Custom Shop Customs as Historics. But the Grovers are a give away as the 57s have Kluson style tuners.
Yes, they are called "Authentic" and have Grovers. Look at the one for sale here. Call it what you want it is a stunning Lester.
Frank is right. The Authentics in '01 came from the factory with Grovers
I used to have a 1998 Les Paul Custom '54 reissue which I purchased new, and it had gold Grover tuners on it. I'm not sure if that was common or not, but that is how it came from the factory.
The Custom Authentic series of R8s also came with Grovers.
Just when you thought you had it figured out.
The above is correct. I like the look of the Kluson tuners, but the feel and precision of the Grovers is superior, IMO.
I've got a 355 Historic with grovers.
I've got an R7 Custom that came with grover kidneys stock. They used Grovers up until recently (I wanna say 2002 or 2003). The normal Customs, iirc, should have the metal kluson-looking ones.
I dunno if this is still true, but the customs don't have "aged" binding. Mine has a layer of white binding underneath a layer of yellowed binding all around the guitar. But the easiest way to tell is the neck carve, the reissues before the '59 RI have real thick necks.
You should be able to tell by the serial #'s if in doubt.
I personally am looking for a '57 Custom without the VOS finish and be 9 lbs or under.
I actually prefer Kluson tuners, but Grovers do "fit' looks wise on Customs.
I dunno, but I put Grovers on mine.
Me too. An '03.
My Authentic 58 LP came with them. I wish it had Klusons. I bought it because it had a nice top and liked the look of the authentic
I'm currently in the process of restraining myself from taking on debt for a used '58 Authentic with stock Grovers, one of the 2-3 best post-Norlins I've played.