Diezel Herbert Demo

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  1. Wizard of Ozz

    Wizard of Ozz Silver Supporting Member

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    Here is a demo of the Diezel Herbert I ran across on another forum. It's a video demo so it not only gives you an idea of the tones that Herbie is capable of, it also gives you a good idea of the functionality of the amp as well.

    This is the link to download the demo and it starts at 7:00:

    www.marcseal.com/marcumentary/episode2.wmv


    I think this demo really gives a good general idea of the Herbert. After watching it, it's very apparent to me why I like mine so much.

    :dude :dude :dude
     
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    I saw this over on HC and it's killing me. I'm trying to unload my VHT UL to get one now, my add is over in the amp emporium :D
     
  3. Shane Regal

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    I just bought a Herbert 2nd hand. I find that the distortion, especially on channel 2 sounds overly compressed.... almost unnaturally. It seems that it's getting more and more compressed over the past few weeks. Maybe I have a tube going bad? I have 2 el34s and 4 6l6s in the poweramp. Although I would think it might be a preamp tube issue.
    Have any of you guys experienced this kind of compression?
    I wish I could compare it to another Herbert just to make sure it's not just me.
     
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    Yes I also found the Herbet unnaturally compressed, though I found ch.3 even more compressed than ch. 2. That was one of many reasons why I sold it.

    Yes high gain amps naturally involves some compression by design, but some amps just FEEL more compressed than others, even if they have a similar amount of gain.
     
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    What I get a kick out of, beyond the tone, is simply how much fun the guy is having. That's cool. :D
     
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    I just purchased a Herbert and it's having the same effect on me. I'm having so much fun and genuine enjoyment playing it. I haven't had this much fun in years. The funny thing is, I haven't even scratched the surface yet.
     
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    WOW! I've always heard great things about these amps and that demo was very impressive! Not to derail the thread but how much does the Herbert Head cost?
     
  9. fenderbender4

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    It's a pretty penny at $4100
     
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    That demo got me gassing...


    ...like I need another amp.



    I see a VH4 on the Amp Emporium Thread. Is that basically a Herbert with a fourth channel?

    I'd love to try one, and you'd think that with a city as big as Houston, there would be some for sale, but I dont think there are.

    I'd have to buy on hype and demo clips alone (which scares the bejesus outta me for that sort of $$$).
     
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    Definitely Not.
     
  12. Wizard of Ozz

    Wizard of Ozz Silver Supporting Member

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    Yup... that's always an extra added bonus. Too many times people get wrapped up in gear, tone, mods, etc. and just simply forget to have fun. It is supposed to be enjoying after all.

    ;)
     
  13. Wizard of Ozz

    Wizard of Ozz Silver Supporting Member

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    Diezel uses a fixed "MSRP" similar to Mesa or Bogner.

    VH4 = $4250
    Herbert = $4100

    The above prices are what a new one from a dealer will run you. You won't find any bro pricing on these ;).
     
  14. Wizard of Ozz

    Wizard of Ozz Silver Supporting Member

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    Nope. 2 totally different amps. I personally like the Herbert more, but they are both great amps.

    BTW Most dealers offer at least a 48hr approval period on amps.
     
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    Explain why RayJ ??? I'm curious....I remember playing a VH4 once but cannot remember how it sounded tone wise, especially against a Herbert.
     
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    I also am interested to hear the differences in the Herbert and the VH4.
     
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    And these may be fine amps, but what makes them $4k plus? I could buy 3 excellent amps for that price.

    EP.
     
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    You'll have to try one yourself to fully answer that. The build quality is outstanding as is the customer service. Also, it could be said that one of these amps could replace three excellent amps. To some it's worth it, to others, not. It was worth it to me.

    Here's a gut shot of the Herbert:
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  19. Argonaut4

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    Yep, you can run all those tubes. You can't just arbitrarily put the tubes in, though. They need to be in pairs. Each pair of power tubes must be set in positions 1&6, 2&5, and 3&4. Also, the amp will have to be properly biased when changing power tubes. You have to take the chassis out of the enclosure to do it. If you aren't familiar with biasing, I highly suggest you take it to competent tech.

    BTW, I'm running El34's, KT66's, and 6550's in mine.
     
  20. MARCO

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    I knew that already but thanks....I actually have the manual and preset tone list of all of the sounds you can dial in. I had Uwe help me with biasing. I am going to ship it to him sometime soon just to give it a tune up and look it over. I never did that since I bought it used. I want to be able to do some good old VH on the second channel and do some huge hard rock/metal on the third. I would think EL34's and KT-88's woukld do trick right ??
     

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